re: New Forde and Thamel article speculating on which BBall programs get hit

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Auburn

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Water is wet.

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What is South Carolina accused of doing? Must’ve missed it.

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Not much. USC complied with the FBI initially with the first group of schools implicated, and gave them all the data and information (texts, emails, phone records, etc.) that they asked from all those schools. Then we were let go by the FBI, who said they were no longer investigating us. So they didn't find anything incriminating.

Our former asst. coach LaMont Evans had moved on to Ok. State by then, and had ramped up his dealings with Dawkins, Sood, and the others. So pretty much all that he was charged with - and pled guilty to - involved his dealing with that program.

Dawkins said he paid Evans money reportedly to bring him and the others in contact with Gamecock players - notably PJ Dozier - but if that had in fact happened, then the FBI would've stepped in there, and they didn't. There is no evidence that any players on USC's roster were involved with these or any other agents, and by the time Sood testified that he met personally with Dozier's mother, Dozier was no longer an amateur athlete - he signed with an agent/agency that was not involved with these people that the FBI investigated, so it sounds like Evans was unsuccessful there.

But this isn't the FBI, it's the NCAA. If an assistant coach can be proved to have accepted bribery money from an agent - even if it didn't result in any real involvement or contracts with college players - I don't know what NCAA rules would exist that could be used to punish that coach's college program. But we're South Carolina, and that hasn't ever stopped the NCAA from shitting on us just the same.....

But HHtM said it was confirmed that LSU was in the clear...

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I speculate that you are a fricking moron sitting in your mom’s basement posting on an I-phone 5C that you just purchased, while eating Nacho Cheese Doritos and drinking pickle juice...

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Damn

RIP cajunmama

So if Thamel says Auburn we are good

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But this isn't the FBI, it's the NCAA. If an assistant coach can be proved to have accepted bribery money from an agent - even if it didn't result in any real involvement or contracts with college players - I don't know what NCAA rules would exist that could be used to punish that coach's college program.....

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Yeah, the exposure all the programs mentioned in this investigation seem to fall into three categories and it's not clear to what degree the NCAA will pursue all of them in terms of charging infractions:


1. I would imagine the NCAA's highest priority will be where recruits were paid specifically to entice them to sign with a specific program. From the SEC, LSU would seem to be in danger of being investigated in this regard.


2. The second group would seem to be where college players were paid by agents to secure them as clients but not to steer them to that college. Seems Alabama and perhaps Auburn? et al may be exposed in this regard.


3. The third group seems to be what you describe above. Assistant coaches being bribed by agents to steer college players their way. South Carolina, from what you say, falls into this group.



It's easy to see why #3 concerns the FBI more in terms of actual crimes (bribery, fraud et al) and not just NCAA violations.

However, #1 is what likely concerns the NCAA a lot more for the obvious reason of cutting right to the heart of competitiveness issues.


The real gray area is how far the NCAA will go in punishing programs where top college players took money that was not tied directly to their recruitment.

Players being paid to sign with a certain school for the highest offer is something most fans see as a huge problem and black mark on the very idea of fair competition.

However, most fans could likely not care less if NBA prospects eventually take some money from agents -- although that, of course, means they are/were ineligible from the NCAA's standpoint.

No, we did terminate three. 2 were technically support staff but Jordan VerHulst, video coordinator, and Frankie Sullivan, graduate assistant were terminated as well.

Worst case for Auburn is this is that we have to vacate a bunch of wins from the 2016-2017 season

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