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Posted on 8/16/18 at 11:50 pm to The Baker
A good way of putting it, Saban could get any program to their ceiling, or perhaps even establish a new ceiling for them, but different programs have different ceilings.
Posted on 8/16/18 at 11:59 pm to RD Dawg
Hottest dude 90% of time with hottest chick...or versa vica.. thats bama and nick
Posted on 8/17/18 at 2:53 am to The Baker
He couldn't do it at Mich St or LSU so you answer that absurd question.
Posted on 8/17/18 at 6:31 am to SAINTS0321
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Hottest dude 90% of time with hottest chick
That’s not true.
Do you mean richest?
Posted on 8/17/18 at 6:38 am to The Baker
he could in their conference but over the long haul he would not be getting all the 4 and 5 stars to come on a regular basis.
Posted on 8/17/18 at 6:39 am to jimdog
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He couldn't do it at Mich St or LSU so you answer that absurd question.
I think the essence of the question is if Coach Saban went there now, after what he has done at Alabama. There is a strong possibility he could because recruits would go there to be coached by him. Coach Saban is a very good coach, but he needed Alabama to reach his potential. Now that he has, he could go anywhere and probably recreate it.
Posted on 8/17/18 at 6:41 am to The Baker
Doubtful
Top flight football schools are built over generations and multiple coaches so the equation might look like this.
Program = Good
Program + Coach = Great
Top flight football schools are built over generations and multiple coaches so the equation might look like this.
Program = Good
Program + Coach = Great
Posted on 8/17/18 at 6:52 am to Cheese Grits
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Top flight football schools are built over generations
No, they’re not.
Bowden single-handedly made previously shitty FSU into a power and Steve did the same thing at what had been a thoroughly and perpetually mediocre Florida. Saban himself took over an LSU team that had been lackluster forever and won a natty, then passed the reins to an idiot who’d been a “meh” coach at Oklahoma State and he won another just coasting on Saban’s fumes. So history actually shows that one coach can indeed completely change a school’s fortunes.
Posted on 8/17/18 at 6:56 am to The Baker
No
Posted on 8/17/18 at 6:57 am to Woodreaux
I think he would have better results than he did when he was there last time, but not the same results he has had at bama. saban and bama are a perfect storm. With the backing from the rec and his hard nose, results oriented coaching made the bama dynasty what it is today.
Posted on 8/17/18 at 6:58 am to Cooter Davenport
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Bowden single-handedly made previously shitty FSU into a power
He played where he could cherry pick the schedule and got better media exposure. Not saying he was a bad coach but it took a second coach to win a Natty to get them over the hump from good to top tier.
Spurrier inherited the perfect storm. Pell built the program and Steve rode it the rest of the way to the top. CUM winning the Natty cemented them from average to top tier.
Just think of all the 1 hit wonders in college football who could not sustain the rocket ride of a single coach.
Posted on 8/17/18 at 7:03 am to SAINTS0321
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I don't believe...bama was dynasty before nick
When Nick arrived, Bama had gone 15 years without a NC and had exactly ONE SEC title in that period.
Not exactly dynasty material there, Ace.
This post was edited on 8/17/18 at 7:04 am
Posted on 8/17/18 at 7:08 am to EastBankTiger
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Not exactly dynasty material there, Ace.
wut?
Wallace Wade = MNC winning coach
Frank Thomas = MNC winning coach
Bear Bryant = MNC winning coach
Gene Stallings = MNC winning coach
Nick Saban = MNC winning coach
Good lord man, if that is not a dynasty, I don't know what is.
Posted on 8/17/18 at 7:19 am to The Baker
Probably… but then you'd have to live in a city like Akron or Toledo.
Posted on 8/17/18 at 7:30 am to The Baker
Saban is a tremendous coach but he cant turn water into wine. The man needs grapes and Akron and Toledo are not the best vinyards.
Posted on 8/17/18 at 7:33 am to The Baker
If Bowden can make Akron relevant within the MAC then Saban could make them or, say, Arkansas State the Boise State of the G5.
The question I’ve got is could Saban take a Vanderbilt and do it, take a program that has clear hurdles and make them dominant. I don’t think so, but it would be interesting to see.
The question I’ve got is could Saban take a Vanderbilt and do it, take a program that has clear hurdles and make them dominant. I don’t think so, but it would be interesting to see.
Posted on 8/17/18 at 7:50 am to Cheese Grits
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wut?
Wallace Wade = MNC winning coach
Frank Thomas = MNC winning coach
Bear Bryant = MNC winning coach
Gene Stallings = MNC winning coach
Nick Saban = MNC winning coach
Good lord man, if that is not a dynasty, I don't know what is.
That was a program running on its distant past before Nick arrived.
Now, if you want to say that they're a present day dynasty under Nick, there's absolutely no argument.
Posted on 8/17/18 at 8:06 am to The Baker
If they would spend the money he could win a championship there. I don't know about the dynasty part.
Posted on 8/17/18 at 8:08 am to Porter Osborne Jr
And the only reason bama droughted in 2000s was probation...
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