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re: NCAA total offense: Clemson #3, scoring defense #1, total defense #2

Posted on 1/12/20 at 11:43 am to
Posted by CivilTiger83
Member since Dec 2017
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Posted on 1/12/20 at 11:43 am to
I am getting a weird sense of Deja Vu.

I am playing the best offense of all time with some holes on their D. Statistically I am the better team, but everyone discounts that based on conference. Where have I seen such a weird scenario before?
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/12/20 at 11:50 am to
Fans who are Sad

LSU 0
UCF 1
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
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Posted on 1/12/20 at 11:51 am to
quote:

I am playing the best offense of all time with some holes on their D.
Lulz
Posted by TigerDat
Member since Aug 2010
7628 posts
Posted on 1/12/20 at 12:01 pm to
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I am playing the best offense of all time with some holes on their D. Statistically I am the better team, but everyone discounts that based on conference. Where have I seen such a weird scenario before


O really? What position do you play?


Clemson fans sound an awful lot like those arrogant Bama fans last year that they continue to talk about.

Clemson played a young qb in Tua, with a senior laden defensive line that are mostly NFL starters this season.

This time Clemson plays a senior qb, with a far less talented defensive line.

Posted by oneg8rh8r
Port Ludlow, WA
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 1/12/20 at 12:06 pm to
Look, I am in no way saying this isn't going to be a great, close game. Anybody who says otherwise simply isn't looking at the talent on both sides.

But, I have looked at the individual match ups and I see a pretty even comparison with the exception of LSU WR vs Clemson DB's. The numbers are in our favor, I don't think you have enough ELITE DB's to cover the number of ELITE WR we have CONSISTENTLY.

I see 1 maybe 2 series where LSU comes out ahead, that is why I see a 10 pts game.

Could interceptions, sacks and fumbles play a huge part? Absolutely, and I suspect they will.
Posted by bengalfan50
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2009
2467 posts
Posted on 1/12/20 at 12:06 pm to
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NCAA total offense: Clemson #3, scoring defense vs cupcakes #1, total defense vs cupcakes #2


FIFY
Posted by FredBear
Georgia
Member since Aug 2017
14979 posts
Posted on 1/12/20 at 12:06 pm to
A UCF fan sucking Clemson dick?

Oh I get it, you're still butthurt over the loss LSU gave you guys last year.
Posted by John Milner
Member since Jan 2015
6477 posts
Posted on 1/12/20 at 12:08 pm to
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Clemson played a young qb in Tua, with a senior laden defensive line that are mostly NFL starters this season.

This time Clemson plays a senior qb, with a far less talented defensive line.



valid observation, though Tua's problems last year weren't so much youth as the 2 injuries. Still, the UA defense couldn't stop Clemson. Bottom line is that Clemson was the better team.
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
12394 posts
Posted on 1/12/20 at 12:17 pm to
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Oh I get it, you're still butthurt over the loss LSU gave you guys last year.


We owe UCF a debt of gratitude, not their sad fans like the troll that started this thread, but rather that cheap shot artist who blindsided Burrow and woke up a sleeping giant who has been embarrassing defenses ever since that hit.
Posted by rintintin
Life is Life
Member since Nov 2008
16168 posts
Posted on 1/12/20 at 12:19 pm to
quote:

am getting a weird sense of Deja Vu.

I am playing the best offense of all time with some holes on their D. Statistically I am the better team, but everyone discounts that based on conference. Where have I seen such a weird scenario before?


I'm loving this false sense of security Clemson fans have because they beat Bama last year, thinking that something that happened last year has any bearing on this year.



Posted by TigerDat
Member since Aug 2010
7628 posts
Posted on 1/12/20 at 12:20 pm to
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Still, the UA defense couldn't stop Clemson. Bottom line is that Clemson was the better team.


Last year I agree, this year's Clemson is not as good as last year's Clemson.

As quickly as LSU can score, I don't think CLemson can keep up.

Now if they find Burrow's kryptonite then all bets are off. So far no one has been able to do that
Posted by SadUCFKnight
Member since Jun 2008
2620 posts
Posted on 1/12/20 at 12:23 pm to
LSU strength of schedule #2
Ohio State #1
Clemson #7

Posted by John Milner
Member since Jan 2015
6477 posts
Posted on 1/12/20 at 12:30 pm to
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Last year I agree, this year's Clemson is not as good as last year's Clemson.


I agree with that since, as you or another poster noted, Clemson lost 4 (!) defensive linemen to the NFL
Posted by rintintin
Life is Life
Member since Nov 2008
16168 posts
Posted on 1/12/20 at 12:33 pm to
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Clemson #7


I'm not sure how they rank schedules, but let's be real, does this schedule strike fear into anyone?

Georgia Tech
Texas A&M
Syracuse
Charlotte
North Carolina
Florida State
Louisville
Boston College
Wofford
NC State
Wake Forest
South Carolina
Virginia
Posted by CivilTiger83
Member since Dec 2017
2525 posts
Posted on 1/12/20 at 12:40 pm to
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I'm loving this false sense of security Clemson fans have because they beat Bama last year, thinking that something that happened last year has any bearing on this year.


I didn't say we are going to skull drag yall like most of your fans and the rest of the Rant is claiming. I am just saying maybe we are able to hang with LSU.

Burrow might have too many weapons for us to cover and get to the quarterback. I thought the same thing about Tua and Bama last year (too many weapons). Bama's WRs as a group last year were better, but both units are flat elite. We don't have the same DL that we did last year.

Your fanbase is awfully confident, and all I am saying is I have heard it in the recent past. Maybe the past doesn't repeat, but its the same story that was told last year.
Posted by CivilTiger83
Member since Dec 2017
2525 posts
Posted on 1/12/20 at 12:41 pm to
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I'm not sure how they rank schedules, but let's be real, does this schedule strike fear into anyone?



Now do that comparison with Bama and Clemson's schedule the year prior. The same daggum thing was said.
Posted by oneg8rh8r
Port Ludlow, WA
Member since Dec 2003
2700 posts
Posted on 1/12/20 at 12:41 pm to
….and that is why they play the game!
Posted by CivilTiger83
Member since Dec 2017
2525 posts
Posted on 1/12/20 at 12:43 pm to
quote:

….and that is why they play the game!


You are correct.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52464 posts
Posted on 1/12/20 at 12:44 pm to
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Burrow might have too many weapons for us to cover and get to the quarterback. 

I think this will be the problem as it has been for every defense we've faced.
I also cant see Clemson being able to score with LSU.
This post was edited on 1/12/20 at 12:47 pm
Posted by memphisplaya
Member since Jan 2009
85795 posts
Posted on 1/12/20 at 12:46 pm to
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Bama's WRs as a group last year were better,


LSU isn't living and dying by screens and YAC. The offenses are vastly different.
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