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re: NCAA Rules Committee Proposes to Eliminate HUNH
Posted on 2/13/14 at 9:43 am to DaBama
Posted on 2/13/14 at 9:43 am to DaBama
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Slowing the game down and allowing the defense to substitute would change everything Malzahn's offensive philosophy is about.
This is the lie you keep telling yourselves and you can't bring yourselves to give Gus or Auburn enough credit to see that it's not really all that true.
Gus goes into a frenzy sometimes to snap the ball, and sometimes to call an audible. He calls the plays. If he sees something out of place he'll point it out. And sometimes, yes, it's to speed up the offense.
That's hardly 'all it's about' though. Plenty of our games were run on three or four primary plays.
The 'gimmick' saying will die eventually, I'm not really worried about that. I'll only be sad when Bama fans can't cough it up as an excuse anymore.
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Posted on 2/13/14 at 9:44 am to coachcrisp
Since you pine for the good ole days lets eliminate the forward pass and move the goal posts back into them middle of the end zone
Posted on 2/13/14 at 9:44 am to DMagic
Posted on 2/13/14 at 9:46 am to chattabama
quote:Classic.
Bama shoulders 95% of the blame for the loss
'bama only beats themselves. Never gets old.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 9:48 am to polydorr
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This is the lie you keep telling yourselves and you can't bring yourselves to give Gus or Auburn enough credit to see that it's not really all that true.
Well, is it a lie or is it "really not all that true"?
Gus has built his entire philosophy around snapping the ball before the defense is ready. Period.
You take away that ability and you will notice a big change.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 9:48 am to sarc
quote:If anyone wants to make that argument, I have no problem with it. I think the rules as they are now are good, assuming the refs properly enforce them.
The question is whether or not defenses should be able to dictate the timing of their own substitutions or should offenses be allowed to continue to dictate it for them
Trying to pass rule changes under the guise of player safety because it is the hot button issue at the moment is bs though. This proposed rule change has nothing to do with player safety and its proponents pretending it does is insulting to people with any objectivity and intelligence.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 9:48 am to DMagic
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Since you pine for the good ole days lets eliminate the forward pass and move the goal posts back into them middle of the end zone
Since we're recycling arguments, let's get rid of scholly limits too. That's probably the next rule change on Saban's agenda.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 9:48 am to joeyb147
Wow. That isnt even close to what he meant. But great spin job. Very well done. 
Posted on 2/13/14 at 9:50 am to WDE24
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WDE24
I...don't disagree
Posted on 2/13/14 at 9:51 am to sarc
frick yes. Alabama will sign 100 of the top 250. Then eliminate staff limitations and y'all could hire the staff to process the ones that don't make it. The REC becomes the political power in the Southeast and eliminates the Tea Party. God bless America and RTR
Posted on 2/13/14 at 9:52 am to DMagic
Posted on 2/13/14 at 9:52 am to WDE24
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This proposed rule change has nothing to do with player safety and its proponents pretending it does is insulting to people with any objectivity and intelligence.
I agree with this. I think this proposed rule change is more about plugging a hole that is being taken advantage of (fairly I might add).
Posted on 2/13/14 at 9:53 am to DaBama
quote:Ot you can go back and watch Auburn's offense in 2010.
Gus has built his entire philosophy around snapping the ball before the defense is ready. Period.
You take away that ability and you will notice a big change.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 9:54 am to TreyAnastasio
#tTakeover
Posted on 2/13/14 at 9:55 am to DaBama
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You take away that ability and you will notice a big change.
Yep, our offensive line and running backs blowing up defenses was all about the quick snap. I bet those guys didn't even hit the weight room.
Hell, I heard that our fullback's arms would literally break if we didn't snap the ball fast enough.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 10:01 am to TTsTowel
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Ot you can go back and watch Auburn's offense in 2010.
That's a great example.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 10:08 am to DaBama
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That said, I hope they don't change a thing. I don't care for the HUNH personally. there's nothing stopping other teams from doing it so I don't see it as an advantage really.
This is how I feel about it.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 10:09 am to polydorr
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Yep, our offensive line and running backs blowing up defenses was all about the quick snap. I bet those guys didn't even hit the weight room. Hell, I heard that our fullback's arms would literally break if we didn't snap the ball fast enough.
Don't get me wrong. I think Malzahn is a damn good coach. Hell, he may be a genius. The offense that he runs is his own creation which is a rarity. However, part of that creation is taking advantage of the quick snap in order to get the jump on the defense. I'm not trying to detract from auburn or what Malzahn has done at all. What I'm saying is that I personally believe that if you took the quick snap element out of the equation, it would make auburn's current offense a lot less effective.
Or not. What the hell do I know?
Posted on 2/13/14 at 10:11 am to sarc
quote:This is basically what I posted early in the first thread on this topic. I said that the offense has control of the ball snap, therefore control of the game tempo and all the benefits that tempo is afforded. In the past, it hasn't mattered because of the traditional huddles, but things have changed.
The question is whether or not defenses should be able to dictate the timing of their own substitutions or should offenses be allowed to continue to dictate it for them I don't think it's ever really been debated before because with traditional huddle offenses, both O and D were free to sub at will. With the advent of no huddle offenses, offensive minds recognized that by immediately lining up they could dictate when the D is able to sub. I applaud them for recognizing this and for bringing a new tactic to the game. But the question remains, should the D have the same capability pertaining to subs as the O? If a RB is winded, the O doesn't have to wait for the D to sub before they can sub out that RB. So should the O be allowed to dictate when the D is allowed to sub out its winded players? I'm on the fence because I don't like seeing innovation punished either.
Finally, I'll throw this past situation for discussion.....back in the day, ends used to be able to come on and off the field as they pleased, plus they could line up anywhere across the line of scrimmage. So Army started leaving a "lonesome" end out of the huddle on occasion and just before the ball was snapped, he'd step on the field and run down the sideline for an uncontested TD pass. Well guess what the NCAA did?......made a rule making them lineup inside a new hashmark installed on the field just for that situation....end of story.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 10:14 am to DaBama
quote:It might and probably will. It certainly takes an aspect that Gus prefers away, but Gene Chizik mostly took that away in 2010 and the offense was still very good.
What I'm saying is that I personally believe that if you took the quick snap element out of the equation, it would make auburn's current offense a lot less effective.
Obviously Gus likes to use tempo and thinks his offense is most effective using it, but I think he has showed enough to prove that he can run a very good offense with or without tempo.
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