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re: NCAA Regional host sites (no host for Kentucky)
Posted on 5/27/12 at 6:04 pm to Numberwang
Posted on 5/27/12 at 6:04 pm to Numberwang
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Maybe this really is helping to expand the game. I've never seen KY fans so pissed off about baseball before.
Exactly.
I just hate it for the players. Go from not even projected to make ANY kind of noise in the SEC, to being one of the top teams, outted in the semis by the eventual SEC Tournament Champs, and you basically get disrespected by the NCAA Committee. frick 'em.
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Posted on 5/27/12 at 6:06 pm to BluegrassBelle
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I've never seen KY fans so pissed off about baseball before.
Shouldn't have let little ole Ms State beat u 4 times....Don't deserve it.
Posted on 5/27/12 at 6:07 pm to CockyHEEL
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CockyHEEL
Really Gamecock? a link of someone who NEVER was at the damn games?
I promise you, even with shitty weather one game, UK had over 75% capacity and more in all 3 games.
Also, please look up NC State's and Purdue's average attendance (2 host sites) and compare that to UK's...and get back to me Cocky.
Thanks
Posted on 5/27/12 at 6:07 pm to BluegrassBelle
Its really gotten to where I expect shite like this every year for SEC teams, from LSU not going with a 20s RPI, to Arkansas giving up hosting to Oklahoma and Cal, etc.
SEC teams don't feel entitled as much as we honestly seem to get the shaft due to how much we would overwhelm the sport if we were treated equally.
SEC teams don't feel entitled as much as we honestly seem to get the shaft due to how much we would overwhelm the sport if we were treated equally.
Posted on 5/27/12 at 6:08 pm to lsu711
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You just pissed off the wrong people —
Corey Littrell(@clittrell21) May 27, 2012
Posted on 5/27/12 at 6:13 pm to CockyHEEL
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I remember watching uk vs lsu at kentucky and hardly anyone was there. For that big of a series that is pretty bad and prolly why they are not hosting.
I was at that series, and it was brutal cold. Someone told me it was actually in the 30's. It was not great weather and I went through many cups of hot coco. Same weekend as the spring game, and the weather was terrible for that too.
As for UKAA they were planning on hosting, and had set up the first set of temp bleachers around mid season. They added 2 more sections for the end games, and had plans for a total of 6 temporary sections for the regional. They were taking orders at least a month ago, and as a poster mentioned, a UK vs UL regional would have been packed.
My questions are :
Why did 3 Florida schools host?
Miami played 3 OOC games away from home and all were in Florida, so how were they rewarded for traveling?
Miami and Florida State were both swept by the Gators, so how did Miami have a SoS of 3?
How did the ACC get 5, the PAC 4, and the SEC only 3 when the SEC has dominated the past CWS?
Is Kentucky baseball this year equal to Auburn not playing for a MNC when they went undefeated?
(I know, not the same thing, but from an anti SEC bias point of view)
Is the ACC getting 5 blowback from them being threatened with losing Clemson and Florida State to the Big 12?
Does anybody have a list of the folks on the selection committee? I would be curious how many were SEC, and how many were ACC or PAC?
Posted on 5/27/12 at 6:15 pm to Cheese Grits
These stick out the most to me:
*Especially if the party line from the committee is "expanding the NCAA Tournament".
No one seems to have a logical answer for it. Probably because it's a bunch of bullshite.
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Why did 3 Florida schools host?
*Especially if the party line from the committee is "expanding the NCAA Tournament".
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Miami played 3 OOC games away from home and all were in Florida, so how were they rewarded for traveling?
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How did the ACC get 5, the PAC 4, and the SEC only 3 when the SEC has dominated the past CWS?
No one seems to have a logical answer for it. Probably because it's a bunch of bullshite.
This post was edited on 5/27/12 at 6:17 pm
Posted on 5/27/12 at 6:17 pm to WildcatMike
ncsuck will host at Cary..(team usa complex) purdue will host at Gary's U.S. steel yard. Both places are more than fit to host. If uk has a field close by then you definitely have an argument.
Posted on 5/27/12 at 6:20 pm to CockyHEEL
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ncsuck will host at Cary..(team usa complex) purdue will host at Gary's U.S. steel yard. Both places are more than fit to host. If uk has a field close by then you definitely have an argument.
No shite sherlock...but majority of host sites have nowhere the facilities that you just posted (besides LSU and USCe...which is a stretch). Damn
Posted on 5/27/12 at 6:20 pm to CockyHEEL
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If uk has a field close by then you definitely have an argument.
If the NCAA gave any indication that UK's field was insufficient (and given Mike's comments I think they did just the opposite) then UK could've hosted at Applebee's Field (Whitaker Bank Park). It actually sits in Lexington not far from campus at all.
This post was edited on 5/27/12 at 6:21 pm
Posted on 5/27/12 at 6:21 pm to CockyHEEL
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CockyHEEL
You are one of the worst half-breed mixes that could ever be conceived, save maybe a CockyTiger mix.
Posted on 5/27/12 at 6:22 pm to theGarnetWay
This post was edited on 5/27/12 at 6:23 pm
Posted on 5/27/12 at 6:27 pm to BluegrassBelle
Posted on 5/27/12 at 6:28 pm to BluegrassBelle
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What happened to UK's plans for a new stadium? Around 2006-07 they had plans together for a new stadium on the south end of the campus where the softball/soccer fields are.
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Bonding issues with the state. Louisville and their basketball arena that they're barely able to pay rent on has made it tough to get anything sports-wise. The little bonding they can get they're putting into educational facilities instead.
Could UK not raise necessary private funds to build a baseball stadium or significantly renovate? I don't generally see the reason for bonds on baseball unless your going to spend over $20mil. That would put you in a VERY exclusive club, with LSU, ARKY, and South Carolina. Ole Miss's renovation cost under $20mil, and they practically built a brand new stadium in the same spot.
UK could do it on a good bit smaller scale in the beginning, with club seats/skyboxes to help pay for it, and could probably build a VERY nice venue for $10-15 million...
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This post was edited on 5/27/12 at 6:31 pm
Posted on 5/27/12 at 6:31 pm to engie
A couple problems with that:
-There are more prudent things needing to be done with both basketball and football facilities.
-You're asking people to privately donate to baseball.
-There are more prudent things needing to be done with both basketball and football facilities.
-You're asking people to privately donate to baseball.
Posted on 5/27/12 at 6:34 pm to engie
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Could UK not raise necessary private funds to build a baseball stadium or significantly renovate? I don't generally see the reason for bonds on baseball unless your going to spend over $20mil. That would put you in a VERY exclusive club, with LSU, ARKY, and South Carolina. Ole Miss's renovation cost under $20mil, and they practically built a brand new stadium in the same spot.
UK could do it on a good bit smaller scale in the beginning, with club seats/skyboxes to help pay for it, and could probably build a VERY nice venue for $10-15 million...
The issue is there are some facilities on the list for upgrades before baseball comes down the line again. Rupp is hitting that point of either needing renovations or a move/rebuild (they're going to go with renovations and it's going to get precedent for obvious reasons), Commonwealth needs structural upgrades (and they just shelled out for video boards, ribbon, sound, etc), and etc. They have a hard enough time getting $$$ in for football much less baseball unfortunately.
I also get the impression from the new University President that they're wanting to pump money into educational facilities first. And from a personal standpoint, fundraising is one of Barnhart's weaknesses. Calipari and others pretty much do it for basketball.
It's why folks at UK tried to push through the IMG deal that would include a new baseball stadium with Rupp renovations. More likely to get people to open their pockets if you tie one to the other.
This post was edited on 5/27/12 at 6:36 pm
Posted on 5/27/12 at 6:40 pm to BluegrassBelle
Main problem of expanding current baseball stadium is spacing. THERE IS NONE. That is why they have to build a new one if they want a bigger one. Cliff Hagen is nestled within the track and football practice facilities....there is no way they can do the work that Ole mis did.
Also, have you seen what the baseball stadium looked like prior to 2001? It was a total piece of shite...they torn down the seats and built the seating that is existing now.
The stadium in not bad at all...actually, it is quite cozy and pretty nice place to watch games...the only problem is parking which suck, because there is hardly any besides parking across the street a ways in the football stadium parking lots.
Also, have you seen what the baseball stadium looked like prior to 2001? It was a total piece of shite...they torn down the seats and built the seating that is existing now.
The stadium in not bad at all...actually, it is quite cozy and pretty nice place to watch games...the only problem is parking which suck, because there is hardly any besides parking across the street a ways in the football stadium parking lots.
Posted on 5/27/12 at 6:41 pm to CockyHEEL
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ncsuck will host at Cary..(team usa complex) purdue will host at Gary's U.S. steel yard. Both places are more than fit to host. If uk has a field close by then you definitely have an argument.
I am guessing they would have 5,000 - 6,000 seats with the temp bleachers. That is not counting the folks drinking on the deck. UK actually hosted a regional before, so it is not like this was new to UK.
The bigger point is they will have at least a 6 hour drive to where they play. If it is in Gary, that is Chicago, which is not close at all.
UK to Gary = 6 hours
UK to Charlottesville = 7.5 hours
UK to Columbia = 7.5 hours
UK to Chapel Hill = 8 hours
UK to Raleigh = 8.5 hours
UK to Baton Rouge = 11 hours
The other 10 are some serious travel time
College Station, TX / Houston, TX / Waco, TX
Tallahassee, FL / Gainesville, FL / Coral Gables, FL
Tucson, AZ / Los Angeles, CA / Palo Alto, CA / Eugene, OR
That is asking a lot from a fan base that is just building up to travel that far to play anybody who is below them. It makes a big difference when the top seed team sleeps in their own beds for a regional.
Posted on 5/27/12 at 6:43 pm to engie
It has been awhile since I've looked at it, but UK's proposed new stadium looks similar to how swayze turned out, but I think the estimates were over 20M back in 2006.
Posted on 5/27/12 at 6:50 pm to lsu711
That is about right, but I am sure those numbers are more.
Right now, improving the softball and soccer stadium and finishing the track is the importance...then baseball will get in the works.
I can tell you, if the city "F"'s around on Rupp Arena and not working with UK, then UK will build there own arena on campus and leave the city high and dry.
Right now, improving the softball and soccer stadium and finishing the track is the importance...then baseball will get in the works.
I can tell you, if the city "F"'s around on Rupp Arena and not working with UK, then UK will build there own arena on campus and leave the city high and dry.
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