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re: NCAA official response to CA: State’s 58 member schools would be ineligible to compete
Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:59 am to AirbusDawg
Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:59 am to AirbusDawg
It’s going to be a relatively small amount of tax revenue. College athletes already have to file taxes either as independents or through their parents for their room and board and stipends. If anything taxes on endorsement deals and such are going to add an extra step to boosters paying players.
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Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:59 am to ThaiTiger24
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They wouldn’t have anything to sue over.
Anti-trust law.
The NCAA profits from a players name/likeness, but the same player cannot profit from his/her own name likeness. Hypocrisy.
This post was edited on 10/1/19 at 12:01 pm
Posted on 10/1/19 at 12:01 pm to I let the dogs out
Im glad the NCAA is taking a strong stand against this crap. lawsuits wont be won be won because the NCAA doesn't force schools to participate. Itrs supposed to be amateur athletics.
The few college players that want more are idiots...they want the college football world to be a minor league of the damn NFL. Only a tiny fraction of college players are going to make a pro roster after 2-3 years.
No degree? They will be driving beer trucks later on and wonder what happened to them. NFL doesn't care about players or fans....period.
College football isn't a money making machine for the schools...they don't make profits. The $$ goes to all the other sports also including Title 9.
College players cant go pro from high school. Its a team sport and its gotten selfish from a few that think (that's their problem....thinking) college is making a ton of money without any realization that sports other than football cost $$$ who is going to pay big bucks for a volleyball or women's softball team to travel 800 miles for games? Or tennis, or swimming etc etc.
That's not even bringing up the recruiting nightmare bound to happen. Team A tells recruit Mr Big at a car dealership will give XX amount of money to sign and endorse his business....etc etc.
Frick California and the law makers who have been influenced by Nike, Addidas etc etc.
The few college players that want more are idiots...they want the college football world to be a minor league of the damn NFL. Only a tiny fraction of college players are going to make a pro roster after 2-3 years.
No degree? They will be driving beer trucks later on and wonder what happened to them. NFL doesn't care about players or fans....period.
College football isn't a money making machine for the schools...they don't make profits. The $$ goes to all the other sports also including Title 9.
College players cant go pro from high school. Its a team sport and its gotten selfish from a few that think (that's their problem....thinking) college is making a ton of money without any realization that sports other than football cost $$$ who is going to pay big bucks for a volleyball or women's softball team to travel 800 miles for games? Or tennis, or swimming etc etc.
That's not even bringing up the recruiting nightmare bound to happen. Team A tells recruit Mr Big at a car dealership will give XX amount of money to sign and endorse his business....etc etc.
Frick California and the law makers who have been influenced by Nike, Addidas etc etc.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 12:04 pm to tylerdurden24
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So you think the state of Georgia is just going to sit on its hands and refuse to adopt a similar law out of principle, as if the main football figure in the state is going to let the college game all but disappear because it means his players have an opportunity to earn money?
Ditto South Carolina, Louisiana, and Alabama?
No. I think they will all adopt these laws. However, the biggest money people available to pay players reside in the other states I listed. Therefore the most elite recruits will go to those states. Hence, college teams in those states will dominate since they have the best (highest paid) recruits, even though all will be paid.
This post was edited on 10/1/19 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 10/1/19 at 12:05 pm to tylerdurden24
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People are acting like there’s a level field in college football now when the same top 8 teams occupy the top of the rankings every year. If anything, this creates an opportunity for parity that isn’t ever going to exist otherwise and maybe that’s partly what freaks people out.
Tennessee and Nebraska used to be national powers. Clemson was a national laughing stock. Things change. You can't look at this with a damn microscope on the past 8 years.
The only things at this point that legally separate the schools is how much money they spend on facilities/attractions and the quality of coach they hire. The reason Bama is the monster it has been is because the university funnels money into facilities and they have Saban.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 12:10 pm to tylerdurden24
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Key word. NCAA trying to seem like they’re taking a strong stance when really they’re going to get bullied into changing and they know i
Having a hard time understanding?
They aren't ineligible until they actually get paid so the statement is 100% correct. The NCAA will win this case in federal court. If they stick to their guns, the one that will get bullied is Cali.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 12:10 pm to TeddyWestside
Isn't Cali a liberal state? Pelosi from there? That's why this is a mess...........didn't Cali also want to be their own country?
Posted on 10/1/19 at 12:11 pm to Lonnie Utah
Hypocrisy
Yep, it's so crazy that for the last 150 years young men have been dreaming to play football for their favorite college team with no guarantee, other than a college degree paid for by that university.
The Supreme Court would have a lot to consider. Athletes do get paid in the form of a scholarship. That scholarship turned into a degree will allow a student athlete to possibly increase his/her net worth exponentially over their lifetimes over a person that doesn't have a degree. Many kids on athletic scholarships could not afford college without this
Yep, it's so crazy that for the last 150 years young men have been dreaming to play football for their favorite college team with no guarantee, other than a college degree paid for by that university.
The Supreme Court would have a lot to consider. Athletes do get paid in the form of a scholarship. That scholarship turned into a degree will allow a student athlete to possibly increase his/her net worth exponentially over their lifetimes over a person that doesn't have a degree. Many kids on athletic scholarships could not afford college without this
This post was edited on 10/1/19 at 12:15 pm
Posted on 10/1/19 at 12:12 pm to Lonnie Utah
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Anti-trust law.
The NCAA profits from a players name/likeness, but the same player cannot profit from his/her own name likeness. Hypocrisy.
There is no anti trust issue at all.
The NCAA is a voluntary organization. Schools do not have to participate. They're free to go to another organization (NAIA already exists) or form their own.
The NCAA is also a non-profit organization. The organizations profiting from the players are the schools themselves.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 12:14 pm to J2thaROC
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Until the monopoly issue is brought up.
You know the NCAA isn't the only college football sanctioning organization, right?
Uh oh!!!!!!!!
Posted on 10/1/19 at 12:16 pm to JustGetItRight
I still blame the liberals.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 12:17 pm to tylerdurden24
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let college students participate in a free market with third parties like all of their classmates
So the grad student that makes a find while helping do research gets to reap the profits instead of the university?
You really don't know how any of this works, do you?
Posted on 10/1/19 at 12:17 pm to jlovel7
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If players want to be professional athletes, they need to join a professional league.
What professional farm league is there in football? One doesn't exist.
This is why I think the NFL will eventually get involved here and either allow teams to take HS recruits or create their own farm league.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 12:23 pm to 00 Tech Grad
This is rich coming from a state that doesn't even award Juco athletes scholarships, food, or a place to stay while they are in school competing for their Juco program.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 12:25 pm to 00 Tech Grad
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college football will not be as profitable as it is now
College football is not profitable now. Only a very few programs make money without being subsidized by their schools.
Most of the P5 programs only break even. The rest lose money.
So, I guess it will all work out in the end. There will be no more college football (except maybe club level like most SEC hockey teams), so there will be no difficulty with Title IX compliance when schools drop a ton of women's sports. Of course, the athletes will be a lot less athletic and probably a lot whiter too - but hey they aren't being exploited any more - so everyone can celebrate. Yay us!
Posted on 10/1/19 at 12:27 pm to JustGetItRight
The law of unintended consequences will be on full display with the California law.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 12:29 pm to JustGetItRight
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The NCAA is also a non-profit organization.
With $1,000,000,000 in revenue for 2017...
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This post was edited on 10/1/19 at 12:31 pm
Posted on 10/1/19 at 12:32 pm to JustGetItRight
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College football is not profitable now. Only a very few programs make money without being subsidized by their schools. Most of the P5 programs only break even. The rest lose money. So, I guess it will all work out in the end. There will be no more college football (except maybe club level like most SEC hockey teams), so there will be no difficulty with Title IX compliance when schools drop a ton of women's sports. Of course, the athletes will be a lot less athletic and probably a lot whiter too - but hey they aren't being exploited any more - so everyone can celebrate. Yay us!
This guy gets it.
The real goal here is to take the student out of student athlete.
And it will go down just like he says. It will not just be football, but basketball and baseball.
I expect minor league, type club balls to start popping up all over with college age participants sporting "He Hate Me 2" jerseys.
The only winner in all of this is the NFL, NBA, and MLB.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 12:33 pm to Philippines4LSU
The problem with the NCAA is they are trying to govern between unlike divisions and unlike sports.
Women sports and men sports should be separate to begin with. Why football and basketball (some baseball) have to fund all these other sports is ridiculous to begin with.
Most athletic departments will run a deficit if this passes.
Think of all the lawsuits that will come from all athletes that can't profit off their own and only a handful actually will be able to benefit from that.
Women sports and men sports should be separate to begin with. Why football and basketball (some baseball) have to fund all these other sports is ridiculous to begin with.
Most athletic departments will run a deficit if this passes.
Think of all the lawsuits that will come from all athletes that can't profit off their own and only a handful actually will be able to benefit from that.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 12:38 pm to nicholastiger
Most athletic departments already run deficits, even for football and basketball. If football and basketball are separated from other sports as far as revenue goes, other sports will cease to exist since they cannot support the themselves. If that is the intent, fine, but let’s not pretend that any other sports will survive, even at schools that operate in the black.
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