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re: "NCAA lowering standard of proof on NIL violations. Circumstantial evidence now used"
Posted on 1/31/23 at 9:33 am to AwgustaDawg
Posted on 1/31/23 at 9:33 am to AwgustaDawg
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The NCAA has not authority to enforce ANY thing.
Yep this and all the rest of your post!!!
Here's the thing fans may not like NIL, but the big schools and players sure as hell do for the most part. If the NCAA decides to go after schools like Ohio St, Alabama, USC, Miami, Oklahoma, LSU, etc for NIL violations (whatever the hell those are) I think the NCAA goes bye bye and a lot of people's cash cow is gone.
NCAA doesn't want to go bye bye which is why I doubt they ever do any real enforcement around NIL...maybe a hand slap here and there that will be OK'd by the big schools but that's it.
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Posted on 2/1/23 at 9:00 am to tide06
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Yeah this isn’t accurate.
If the schools and P5 conferences decide to break away which I believe they should do you would be correct, but until then any school who is found to be in violation of their rules is subject to their punishment.
Whether they choose to enforce those rules fairly or consistently is another matter for another thread.
They have already made the decision to break away....they are involved in NIL deals that are based on playing at every program in the nation interested in doing so and daring the NCAA to go to court and lose again, which they will. There is no way to legally force a regulation across an industry which the industry does not agree with. It works with building codes because most people are not in a position to know whats sage and whats not and the AHJ enforcing the requirements can make any judgement call they want. When the SEC, for example, agrees to the NCAA rules and lets say Vandy says, nope, ain't gonna do it the SEC will threaten Vandy but the SEC will only do so IF the other conferences do not. If a program and a conference sees a pathway to a competitive edge for them they will take it and the SEC will follow suit and stop threatening Vandy. The only way the NCAA ever worked was folks more or less agreed and the courts falsely validated the NCAA. Those days are over. Too much money to not take every angle you can and the courts have indicated that they will no longer tolerate abuse by the NCAA.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 9:04 am to secuniversity
It’s about damn time
I’m tired of not being on probation or being under investigation. It’s just not interesting. I expect the life I have grown accustomed to
I’m tired of not being on probation or being under investigation. It’s just not interesting. I expect the life I have grown accustomed to
Posted on 2/1/23 at 9:06 am to secuniversity
Bama is the underdog now and everyone loves the underdog
Posted on 2/1/23 at 9:42 am to LSU316
The NCAA has to tread lightly around NIL because they can open themselves up to anti trust litigation if they try to put parameters in place around NIL.
Schools know this. Almost feels like most are daring the NCAA to tread into this territory so they can throw the death blow once and for all through the legal system.
SCOTUS opened Pandora’s Box, and SCOTUS > NCAA all day every day.
Schools know this. Almost feels like most are daring the NCAA to tread into this territory so they can throw the death blow once and for all through the legal system.
SCOTUS opened Pandora’s Box, and SCOTUS > NCAA all day every day.
This post was edited on 2/1/23 at 9:45 am
Posted on 2/1/23 at 10:12 am to secuniversity
How does the NCAA manage to get *every single thing* so incredibly wrong?
Posted on 2/1/23 at 10:13 am to AUWDE
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Schools know this. Almost feels like most are daring the NCAA to tread into this territory so they can throw the death blow once and for all through the legal system.
Pst: the schools are the NCAA.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 10:18 am to ClassicCityAlum
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Objectively incorrect. As someone who actually works closely with NIL attorneys and is intimately familiar with sport law, the ignorance on this board is maddening. Especially so because many of you morons speak with such odious pomp about something that you clearly know nothing about. Head go Google Scholar and read just one scholarly source on NIL written in 2022. Then come back.
No trolling here as you seem very informed on the issues.
Where do you see this going in regards to pay for play recruiting, enforcement, etc.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 10:32 am to jonnyanony
Kansas basketball still skates, but yeah let's talk about NIL enforcement. Mmkay.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 10:53 am to secuniversity
Soooooo, gonna try to go back to the NCAA pre 2010 when they didn't need proof.
These bastards nailed Bama twice with NOTHING but heresay from a UT booster and ex con coach at Trezevant High in Memphis. From 2003-2006 Alabama was basically Jacksonville St. with zero to back up the allegations but circumstances and shite like phone records.
I knew these a-holes would be back around with their "we believe" it happened. The NCAA has no subpoena power so getting documented proof was next to impossible. Look for heavy sanctions to start being used again. Nobody has really received a penalty from the NCAA since 2010 USC.
These bastards nailed Bama twice with NOTHING but heresay from a UT booster and ex con coach at Trezevant High in Memphis. From 2003-2006 Alabama was basically Jacksonville St. with zero to back up the allegations but circumstances and shite like phone records.
I knew these a-holes would be back around with their "we believe" it happened. The NCAA has no subpoena power so getting documented proof was next to impossible. Look for heavy sanctions to start being used again. Nobody has really received a penalty from the NCAA since 2010 USC.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 10:54 am to nicholastiger
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Well we know who they won’t target
Alabama
1995 and 2002 say hello.
It wasn't just target Bama. It was DESTROY the program.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 11:16 am to secuniversity
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"NCAA lowering standard of proof on NIL violations. Circumstantial evidence now used"
So NOW they can use circumstantial evidence to build a case against a program(s)?
Circumstantial like the numerous internet rumors & claims made in the Rashada NIL dealings where $13MM is rumored between UF/Miami and the kid didn't sign an LOI with either program?
Posted on 2/1/23 at 11:16 am to Che Boludo
Posted on 2/1/23 at 2:14 pm to That LSU Guy
I do think circumstantial will cost the ncaa more money than they can borrow. If it’s not air tight there are lawyers who will give their right nut to handle that case.
This post was edited on 2/1/23 at 2:15 pm
Posted on 2/1/23 at 6:02 pm to secuniversity
What happens when a conference/conferences tell the NCAA to get fricked altogether? Hopefully, Congress doesn't pass a law giving the NCAA ATF-style power.
Posted on 2/1/23 at 6:45 pm to makersmark1
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I have more respect for ambulance chasers than a lawyer who works for the NCAA.
Yeah after you guys got away with paying Cam's Dad $200k I lost all respect for the NCAA.
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