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re: NCAA coronavirus advisory panel details how fan-free college football games are likely
Posted on 5/17/20 at 9:54 pm to Evolved Simian
Posted on 5/17/20 at 9:54 pm to Evolved Simian
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Those are precisely some of the contingency plans they are making now.
I’m aware, just pointing out that if fans are at games, most of us should be prepared to watch our teams from home. They’re going to honor the big money first and the students second and I have a feeling the base level season ticket holders get the short end
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Posted on 5/17/20 at 9:55 pm to djsdawg
I can’t believe how much nba and mlb players are being pussies about this
Posted on 5/17/20 at 9:57 pm to texag7
You're not wrong, texag7.
Posted on 5/17/20 at 10:02 pm to djsdawg
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Ok, let’s see the link making this claim that a massive increase in deaths is just a coincidence and is totally unrelated to the covid outbreak happening right outside the door.
Straight from the CDC
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Included in the 24,172 deaths were 13,831 (57%) laboratory-confirmed COVID-19–associated deaths and 5,048 (21%) probable COVID-19–associated deaths, leaving 5,293 (22%) excess deaths that were not identified as either laboratory-confirmed or probable COVID-19–associated deaths (Figure).
This post was edited on 5/17/20 at 10:03 pm
Posted on 5/17/20 at 10:34 pm to djsdawg
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Ok, let’s see the link making this claim that a massive increase in deaths is just a coincidence and is totally unrelated to the covid outbreak happening right outside the door.
Here's more. As I said, there is a difference between dying with covid and dying because of Covid. Colorado had to revise it's numbers and took away about 300 deaths out of like 1000 total. The exact numbers came out to they were over-counting by 31%.
Colorado’s state health dept. revises method of counting COVID-19 deaths; 878 deaths as of Friday
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Up to this point, anyone who died while testing positive for COVID-19 was counted as a coronavirus-related death.
Now, state health officials will distinguish between people who died directly because of the virus and people who had COVID-19 at their time of death but died of other causes that may not be attributable to the virus.
Me saying it is just "conspiracy theory", but you can just claim "red states" are under counting without a bit of data to back it up and you think that's A-OK.
This post was edited on 5/17/20 at 10:48 pm
Posted on 5/18/20 at 10:39 am to 3down10
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leaving 5,293 (22%) excess deaths that were not identified as either laboratory-confirmed or probable COVID-19–associated deaths (Figure).
And you think none of these were covid, all just a coincidence coincidence.
Posted on 5/18/20 at 10:42 am to Team 122
makes better sense financially to give everyone a mask and hire medical screeners to check everyone's temperature and refuse entry to anyone with a fever than it does to forgo ticket and concession profit.
Posted on 5/18/20 at 10:55 am to 3down10
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A car is hanging off the edge of a cliff. It's balanced and maintaining. A bird comes and lands on the edge of the car, and then the car falls off the cliff.
Only a fool would claim the bird was the cause of the car falling off the cliff because it is ignoring all the preexisting conditions that made up the overwhelming bulk of the cause.
Bird lands on a car without all those preexisting conditions, nothing happens. Kind of like Covid. Someone without preexisting conditions gets it, they are fine.
good analogy. It's sad people don't recognize this on their own.
there are about 3 millions total deaths yearly in the US. If that stat spikes for 2020, covid worry can be justified. but seeing as covid is primarily killing people in the highest morbidity brackets, people shouldn't be surprised when the spike is small or non existent.
Posted on 5/18/20 at 11:08 am to plazadweller
quote:Yep and with the elderly a hospital gets 100% reimbursement from Medicaid-Medicare if the patient has covid.
Hospitals get paid a lot of $$$ for Covid-19 deaths. Especially ones that ran at a $30 million deficit daily for over a month.
Hell, hospital's train their staff milk every insurance & medicare for everything they can get. From the medical dietitians to the PT's to the hospitalist's, they know how to code patient care plans to get every penny.
Posted on 5/18/20 at 11:13 am to Rip Torn
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Of the nearly 100k Americans that have died, almost 30k have been under age 60.
I find roughly 30% of all deaths falling into that demographic almost impossible to believe. Genuinely curious if you have any research to back that up.
Posted on 5/18/20 at 11:46 am to djsdawg
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And you think none of these were covid, all just a coincidence coincidence.
I have no clue and neither do you. You were the one who defined what fraud would look like. I told you large amounts that fit your definition. Then you want to see a link, so I provided you a link. Now you are just looking for excuses.
I'm betting you'll never address the Colorado change unless it's to pretend it's an isolated instance.
All you have done on this topic from the start is tried to fear monger and then called anyone who disagreed names.
Posted on 5/18/20 at 11:53 am to Volsfan82169
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I find roughly 30% of all deaths falling into that demographic almost impossible to believe. Genuinely curious if you have any research to back that up.
It's actually about 20%, but the cut off is 65 not 60. Of that 20%, the majority of them fall in the 45-65 age range, and then almost all of them had pre-existing conditions.
Posted on 5/18/20 at 12:01 pm to 3down10
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have no clue and neither do you. You were the one who defined what fraud would look like. I told you large amounts that fit your definition. Then you want to see a link, so I provided you a link. Now you are just looking for excuses.
What exactly do you think your link proved?
Posted on 5/18/20 at 12:02 pm to Team 122
Tanner said we plan on allowing a minimum of 15k fans.
Why must we ALWAYS be the rebels?
Why must we ALWAYS be the rebels?
Posted on 5/18/20 at 12:04 pm to djsdawg
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What exactly do you think your link proved?
You asked for the link for the 20%, and I gave it to you.
That you are dishonest is not exactly news to me.
Posted on 5/18/20 at 12:07 pm to 3down10
1. LSU has already sold its season tickets. I have already paid for my two. Gonna need a complete redo if the SEC goes to some kind of reduced attendance.
2. All SEC teams will do exactly the same thing attendance-wise.
3. If you take all the fans 65 and up plus all fans with pre-exisitng conditions OUT of Tiger Stadium, you'll be left with less than half a stadium.
3. I really believe it is unlikely SEC teams will have full stadia unless we get strong and available meds that have 95% and higher cure rates. Regardless of the rules, many people will make the decision to NOT attend.
2. All SEC teams will do exactly the same thing attendance-wise.
3. If you take all the fans 65 and up plus all fans with pre-exisitng conditions OUT of Tiger Stadium, you'll be left with less than half a stadium.
3. I really believe it is unlikely SEC teams will have full stadia unless we get strong and available meds that have 95% and higher cure rates. Regardless of the rules, many people will make the decision to NOT attend.
Posted on 5/18/20 at 12:42 pm to 3down10
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ou asked for the link for the 20%, and I gave it to you.
That you are dishonest is not exactly news to me.
Well, it didnt prove they listed covid as a COD without symptoms/autopsy analysis, but it did prove there was a large amount of excess deaths that arent being counted as COVID, so that helps make another point of mine.
Posted on 5/18/20 at 12:45 pm to djsdawg
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Well, it didnt prove they listed covid as a COD without symptoms/autopsy analysis, but it did prove there was a large amount of excess deaths that arent being counted as COVID, so that helps make another point of mine.
Oh, what a fricking surprise you ignored the bolded part where it did exactly that.
Posted on 5/18/20 at 12:52 pm to 3down10
quote:He's been doing this shite for +2 months now.
All you have done on this topic from the start is tried to fear monger and then called anyone who disagreed names
Posted on 5/18/20 at 2:00 pm to 3down10
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what a fricking surprise you ignored the bolded part where it did exactly that.
It’s certainly didn’t say what you think it said. Presumed cases are likely based on diagnostics, symptoms, autopsy results, and nowhere in what your bold quote did it say otherwise.
And of course you ignore the 5k extra deaths that aren’t included in the covid numbers, and the point that goes along with that.
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