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Posted on 4/25/18 at 9:58 am to Fireman17
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Known cheater as a coach and a coach that loves one and done..
They'll just get someone else if he bolts.
It's not like Kentucky has already established themselves as a top program.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 10:30 am to Fireman17
Known cheater...gotcha.
Coach Cal doesn't love the one and done, he hates the one and done, has said so many times. He's been the leader in changing the rules to let players go to NBA straight out of high school(he met with the NBAPA earlier this week to try and establish a high school draft combine). We will still get the best players that don't go straight to the NBA.
Kentucky has 7 championships before Cal got here and 1 with him. UK will always be UK, with or without Cal. This won't be the end for Kentucky basketball.
Coach Cal doesn't love the one and done, he hates the one and done, has said so many times. He's been the leader in changing the rules to let players go to NBA straight out of high school(he met with the NBAPA earlier this week to try and establish a high school draft combine). We will still get the best players that don't go straight to the NBA.
Kentucky has 7 championships before Cal got here and 1 with him. UK will always be UK, with or without Cal. This won't be the end for Kentucky basketball.
This post was edited on 4/25/18 at 10:36 am
Posted on 4/25/18 at 10:31 am to I Bleed Garnet
This.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 10:40 am to TigerTalker16
quote:I guess that the thinking behind this is that it would keep a school from recruiting/signing a one and done player or else they lose that scholarship for a couple of years after he has gone.
locking a scholarship for three or four years if the recipient leaves a program after a single year.
The downside of that is, what happens if a kid blows up his freshman year? He wasn't predicted to be one and done, but he has a huge freshman year and ends up getting so much interest from the NBA that he leaves? The school wasn't trying to sign a one and done kid, but he turned into one.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 10:48 am to TigerTalker16
quote:Looks like a ton of hurdles to get these sweeping reforms in place any time soon. Emmerrt said he wanted changes in place by August '18 that'll never happen.
It's not yet clear how the governing body would pay for some of the proposals, and some of the panel's key recommendations would require cooperation from the NBA, its players union and USA Basketball.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 11:01 am to Fireman17
Yeah right...how could Big Blue find success if those great players actually stayed 4 years
Posted on 4/25/18 at 11:05 am to RT1941
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Emmerrt said he wanted changes in place by August '18 that'll never happen.
In regards to the Draft stuff, looks like they are both targeting the 2020 draft.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 11:27 am to TigerTalker16
This commission is so correct. What they need to do is also say the NCAA is a corrupt institution and needs to be replaced outright.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 11:46 am to RT1941
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Emmerrt said he wanted changes in place by August '18 that'll never happen.
Well the one and done rule is part of the current NBA CBA.
Don't think they can discuss or negotiate a new one and done rule till 2022.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 11:55 am to I Bleed Garnet
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I guess the reason they can't is because HS baseball is literally irrelevant and you don't see the same kind of money you do with the Shoe Companies and AAU Teams.
I don't want to be "that guy" but yeah basketball can't work that way because of the slime that surrounds young basketball players and how much they prey on poor kids who are just trying to provide for their families. I just can't see a situation where it doesn't create an even bigger problem than we already have with these AAU kids and street agents. In theory they should 100% do that, but in practice I see those rules being exploited a lot more than the current rules already are.
This post was edited on 4/25/18 at 11:57 am
Posted on 4/25/18 at 12:14 pm to Fireman17
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Sounds like the end of KY basketball is around the corner
Kentucky still be eating...in a big way. The blue bloods will still be on top.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 12:55 pm to Evolved Simian
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The undrafted one and done types will have to modify their behavior to be able to return. Many of them give up on school during the spring semester.
If those guys weren’t finishing classes in the spring, teams like Kentucky wouldn’t have such a high APR. I believe to this point, Orton is the only one that didn’t finish. And Wall, Davis, etc have all come back to take more classes in the offseason so they would need to be in good standing to do so. Y’all act like online classes don’t exist or something.
As far as this hurting Kentucky, Cal has done well (as in won a NC and been to another) with 2+ year guys. And has long advocated for the rule to change.
This post was edited on 4/25/18 at 1:00 pm
Posted on 4/25/18 at 1:00 pm to WildcatMike
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Kentucky still be eating...in a big way. The blue bloods will still be on top.
We had a team almost go undefeated under Cal with multiple returning players. And won an NC with another.
But per the Rant, we’re fricked.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 1:03 pm to BluegrassBelle
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But per the Rant, we’re fricked
Yeah or the one guy in this thread of said it
You have more posters disagreeing with that guy
Posted on 4/25/18 at 1:05 pm to rockiee
You act like anything that ever comes out about a coach in trouble or the one and some going away isn’t chalk full of Rantards claiming Cal is going down. That Kentucky won’t survive. All that good fun.
Posted on 4/25/18 at 1:14 pm to BluegrassBelle
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You act like anything that ever comes out about a coach in trouble or the one and some going away isn’t chalk full of Rantards claiming Cal is going down.
No, not every thread is like that. This is a perfect example. You have multiple posters that aren't Kentucky fans calling out that poster for making an ignorant statement. I get that posters troll and post stupid shite all the time but that remark made no sense in this thread after multiple posters were defending Kentucky.
This post was edited on 4/25/18 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 4/25/18 at 2:38 pm to rockiee
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There are other ways to prevent the proliferation of unscrupulous agents.
Can you please list some because I think the easiest and simplest way is what we already have in place in regards to the draft.
Well, since players can't currently hire agents, is there any mechanism in place for the NCAA to certify agents? Agents already may be giving players money under the table...the current system can't prevent it if the player and agent are smart. What if the NCAA had a thorough vetting process to certify agents, then any agents found to be dirty be given a lifetime ban? Wouldn't agents be motivated to stay clean in order to have access to that client base of underclassmen?
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