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NCAA basketball to ban coaches caught cheating for life and end one and done?

Posted on 4/25/18 at 8:17 am
Posted by TigerTalker16
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The Commission on College Basketball sharply directed the NCAA to take control of the sport, calling for sweeping reforms to minimize one-and-done, permit players to return to school after going undrafted by the NBA and ban cheating coaches for life.

The independent commission, led by former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, released a detailed 60-page report Wednesday, seven months after the group was formed by the NCAA in response to a federal corruption investigation that rocked college basketball. Ten people, including some assistant coaches, have been charged in a bribery and kickback scheme , and high-profile programs such as Arizona, Louisville and Kansas have been tied to possible NCAA violations.

"The members of this commission come from a wide variety of backgrounds but the one thing that they share in common is that they believe the college basketball enterprise is worth saving," Rice told the AP. "We believe there's a lot of work to do in that regard. That the state of the game is not very strong.

"We had to be bold in our recommendations."

The Associated Press obtained a copy of the report ahead of Rice presenting its findings to top NCAA officials. It's not yet clear how the governing body would pay for some of the proposals, and some of the panel's key recommendations would require cooperation from the NBA, its players union and USA Basketball.

The commission offered harsh assessments of toothless NCAA enforcement, as well as the shady summer basketball circuit that includes AAU leagues and brings together agents, apparel companies and coaches looking to profit on teenage prodigies. It called the environment surrounding college basketball "a toxic mix of perverse incentives to cheat," and said responsibility for the current mess goes all the way up to university presidents.

The group recommended the NCAA have more involvement with players before they get to college and less involvement with enforcement. It also acknowledged the NCAA will need help to make some changes and defended its amateurism model, saying paying players a salary isn't the answer.

"The goal should not be to turn college basketball into another professional league," the commission wrote in its report.

ONE-AND-DONE


The commission emphasized the need for elite players to have more options when choosing between college and professional basketball, and to separate the two tracks.

The commission called for the NBA and its players association to change rules requiring players to be at least 19 years old and a year removed from graduating high school to be draft eligible. The rule was implemented in 2006, despite the success of straight-from-high-school stars such as LeBron James, Kobe Bryant and Kevin Garnett. The commission did, however, say if the NBA and NBPA refuse to change their rules in time for the next basketball season, it would reconvene and consider other options for the NCAA, such as making freshmen ineligible or locking a scholarship for three or four years if the recipient leaves a program after a single year.

"One-and-done has to go one way or another," Rice told the AP, expressing hope the NBA would act.

The commission decided against attempting to mirror rules for baseball but said it could reconsider. Major League Baseball drafts players out of high school, but once an athlete goes to college he is not eligible to be drafted until after his third year. Baseball players can also return for their senior seasons after being drafted as long as they do not sign professional contracts.

AGENTS

The commission proposed the NCAA create a program for certifying agents, and make them accessible to players from high school through their college careers.




NCAA.com

Video of the press conference this morning
This post was edited on 4/25/18 at 2:10 pm
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Posted by lsufball19
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Posted on 4/25/18 at 8:37 am to
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permit players to return to school after going undrafted by the NBA

I like this as long as they don't hire agents, been too many kids get awful advice and ruin their lives.
This post was edited on 4/25/18 at 8:38 am
Posted by Evolved Simian
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Posted on 4/25/18 at 8:37 am to
The undrafted one and done types will have to modify their behavior to be able to return. Many of them give up on school during the spring semester.
Posted by TigerTalker16
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Posted on 4/25/18 at 8:50 am to
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I like this as long as they don't hire agents, been too many kids get awful advice and ruin their lives.

Agreed. I imagine it's hard to make life decisions like that when you're so young.
Posted by higgs_boson
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Posted on 4/25/18 at 8:52 am to
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The undrafted one and done types will have to modify their behavior to be able to return. Many of them give up on school during the spring semester.


I agree.

And it is exactly for this type of reason they should probably eliminate the one and done.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
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Posted on 4/25/18 at 8:55 am to
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permit players to return to school after going undrafted by the NBA

I like this as long as they don't hire agents, been too many kids get awful advice and ruin their lives.


Why shouldn't a college kid be able to hire what is basically an attorney without losing eligibility?

The issue becomes if the agent gives the player money. There are other ways to prevent the proliferation of unscrupulous agents.
Posted by lsufball19
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Posted on 4/25/18 at 9:23 am to
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Why shouldn't a college kid be able to hire what is basically an attorney without losing eligibility?

The issue becomes if the agent gives the player money. There are other ways to prevent the proliferation of unscrupulous agents.

I think it creates an even more slippery slope than letting players come back who enter the draft. College basketball is already dirty enough as is, allowing them to hire attorneys/agents would be opening pandora's box IMO. I mean can we really trust these guys NOT to give them money?
This post was edited on 4/25/18 at 9:24 am
Posted by rockiee
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Posted on 4/25/18 at 9:27 am to
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There are other ways to prevent the proliferation of unscrupulous agents.


Can you please list some because I think the easiest and simplest way is what we already have in place in regards to the draft.
Posted by crispyUGA
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Posted on 4/25/18 at 9:29 am to
The NCAA can't abolish the 1-and-done, seeing as how it's a NBA rule. I agree that the 1-and-done rule is fricking stupid, but the NBA will have to get off it's arse and do something about it.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
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Posted on 4/25/18 at 9:32 am to
How does it work in baseball?

Can't they hire an adviser? and if they don't like their draft spot go to college?

I don't like them then staying for 3 years, as some kids are that talented that can be very high draft prospects after a year.
Posted by TigerTalker16
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Posted on 4/25/18 at 9:35 am to
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The NCAA can't abolish the 1-and-done, seeing as how it's a NBA rule. I agree that the 1-and-done rule is fricking stupid, but the NBA will have to get off it's arse and do something about it.

The NBA and NCAA will have to work together for a serious change, which means it's not gonna happen or it will take awhile. It basically gonna be a huge pain in the arse.
Posted by lsufball19
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Posted on 4/25/18 at 9:36 am to
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How does it work in baseball?

Can't they hire an adviser? and if they don't like their draft spot go to college?

Yes
Posted by Fireman17
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Posted on 4/25/18 at 9:37 am to
Sounds like the end of KY basketball is around the corner
Posted by Rabern57
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Posted on 4/25/18 at 9:40 am to
How can you take control of the NCAA when the President running it was busted for cheating. Start at the top and go down and clean out all the cheaters. Basketball and football and all the minor sports too.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
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Posted on 4/25/18 at 9:41 am to
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Yes


I say do that to basketball.

I guess the reason they can't is because HS baseball is literally irrelevant and you don't see the same kind of money you do with the Shoe Companies and AAU Teams.
Posted by tWildcat
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Posted on 4/25/18 at 9:44 am to
Why is that?
Posted by bamafan1001
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Posted on 4/25/18 at 9:47 am to
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The NCAA can't abolish the 1-and-done, seeing as how it's a NBA rule. I agree that the 1-and-done rule is fricking stupid, but the NBA will have to get off it's arse and do something about it.


Indeed but the NCAA could put public pressure on the NBA and do things like prohibit all official on campus NBA scouting activities.
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