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re: NCAA Basketball Program Rankings in the Modern Era

Posted on 4/9/19 at 3:48 pm to
Posted by BrerTiger
Valley of the Long Grey Cloud
Member since Sep 2011
21627 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 3:48 pm to
quote:

However, figuring out which programs were good and which ones weren't is pretty easy using the AP Poll as a major data point.


Excellent point.

Your OP did a nice job of sorting out the wheat from the chaff.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 3:48 pm to
quote:

Love to see a football one since integration, whenever you deem that date to be.

I've done it for the Big 6.

LINK
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105102 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 3:49 pm to
Yea I remember that - really good. I'd like to see it on a national level like Kyle did here.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 3:55 pm to
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Yea sounds like 1973 kills 2 birds with 1 stone

Weren't there major changes to blocking rules around '73-'75? I seem to remember that's when they disallowed blocking below the waist.

Generally, I've used 1970 as the start of the post-integration, modern era for CFB.
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 3:59 pm to
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Yea I remember that - really good. I'd like to see it on a national level like Kyle did here.


So one quick formula is to do simply AP Poll Points with a Bonus for a National Title.

1st Place AP Finish = 50 points (25 + 25 for the Trophy)
2nd Place AP Finish = 24 points
3rd Place AP Finish = 23 points

... all the way down to a 25th place finish being worth 1 point.

Since 1973, the football rankings look like this:

1. Alabama- 886
2. Oklahoma- 747
3. Ohio State- 718
4. Florida State- 637
5. Nebraska- 622
6. Michigan- 607
7. USC- 606
8. Miami- 580
9. Penn State- 542
10. Florida- 534
11. Notre Dame- 482
12. Georgia- 451
13. Texas- 433
14. LSU- 417
15. Clemson- 412
16. Auburn- 399
17. Tennessee- 325

18. Washington- 290
19. UCLA- 276
20. Texas A&M- 266
21. Oregon- 238
22. Virginia Tech- 215
23. Colorado- 215
24. Arkansas- 209
24. Wisconsin- 209

Other SEC:

44. South Carolina
45. Missouri
50. Ole Miss
51. Mississippi State
62. Kentucky
89. Vanderbilt

I think it could be developed further, but just that formula gives you a pretty good idea without spending too much time.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 4:02 pm to
I'm surprised A&M is even that high. I'm even more surprised that A&M is above a school WITH A FINAL FOUR APPEARANCE.
Posted by TheSwineAssault
The Delta
Member since Apr 2010
1623 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 4:04 pm to
Like I’ve told these millennials....Arkansas at the least is a Top15 All-Time program. ...even more so if you include all of the Hog’s history. Thanks OP...Great work as always!
This post was edited on 4/9/19 at 4:08 pm
Posted by TheDude321
Member since Sep 2005
3214 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 4:27 pm to
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To me, just making it to the Final 4 is big accomplishment.


Exactly. People forget that Final Four entrants are given championship trophies by the NCAA for winning their respective regionals.
Posted by redeye
Member since Aug 2013
8683 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 4:35 pm to
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Unlike College Football which has the AP Poll to go off of back to 1936, College Basketball didn't have a great way to produce a National Champion until the 1970s.


I'm on my phone, so I won't explain, but I disagree with this thinking. Nice ratings, though.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
120505 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 4:59 pm to
It’s not a bad line of thinking. Only one conference member was allowed in the tournament until 1975. 3 of this year’s Final Four teams wouldn’t even have made the tournament.
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 5:03 pm to
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The last teams to integrate did so in 1972 (Ole Miss, LSU and BYU were the last holdouts)



Damn, I had no idea that LSU was just as racist as Ole Miss
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
26182 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 5:33 pm to
Top 15 is nothing to sneer at but considering how Arkansas has declined in the last two decades... I really hope the new guy can turn things around.
Posted by TheSwineAssault
The Delta
Member since Apr 2010
1623 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 9:57 pm to
It’s Humbling to be a Top 20 All-Time Program in all of the Big 3 Sports...








Woo Pig Sooiee







Razorbacks
Posted by TheSwineAssault
The Delta
Member since Apr 2010
1623 posts
Posted on 4/9/19 at 9:57 pm to
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