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re: Nate Oats and Eric Musselman on the first Indiana hot board to replace Archie Miller

Posted on 3/15/21 at 11:03 pm to
Posted by laxtonto
Member since Mar 2011
2568 posts
Posted on 3/15/21 at 11:03 pm to
If Drew is an option they should hire him and not think twice...

Bigger question is how much is Baylor really paying him and does he want to be the “blue blood” instead of forcing Baylor to be a national name.
Posted by TheCheshireHog
Cashew Chicken Country
Member since Oct 2010
41229 posts
Posted on 3/15/21 at 11:10 pm to
Arkansas basketball is the equivalent of Tennessee football in the SEC. Indiana basketball is the equivalent of Nebraska football in the Big 10. All four programs have been enduring terrible hires since their iconic coaches left.
This post was edited on 3/15/21 at 11:13 pm
Posted by BennyAndTheInkJets
Middle of a layover
Member since Nov 2010
5735 posts
Posted on 3/15/21 at 11:13 pm to
quote:

Arkansas basketball is the equivalent of Tennessee football.

At first I shook my head at this, but then the Long-Fulmer parallels made me have a Keanu Reeves moment.

The biggest difference is we've already corrected our mistake on that front.
This post was edited on 3/15/21 at 11:14 pm
Posted by Grievous Angel
Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Dec 2008
10305 posts
Posted on 3/15/21 at 11:16 pm to
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I’m gonna guess neither leave their jobs for Indiana. Why would they?


They haven't won a championship in a Georgia era time frame.

They are a blue blood in basketball like Minnesota was once a blue blood in Football.

Alabama is a better job. Better recruiting.
Posted by BennyAndTheInkJets
Middle of a layover
Member since Nov 2010
5735 posts
Posted on 3/15/21 at 11:21 pm to
quote:

A lot of people are over reacting to not being a flaming sack of shite at the end of the regular season. I get that.

Sorry, but I think you're the one fitting this criteria at the moment. To imply that we haven't been desperate for success on the hardwood for decades is just factually incorrect. Yes, we've blown it with contract after contract in football, but at this point the desperation market for basketball coaches is still rational relative to profit potential.

My first memory watching the hogs was 1994. It's been downhill after that in an Arkansan amalgamation of Stoernovers, muffed punts, missed scoop and scores, and foul bouls.
Posted by pirate75
Member since Jan 2011
839 posts
Posted on 3/16/21 at 6:35 am to
quote:

BamaGradinTn


quote:

Oats's buyout is $10M, or maybe $12M. I've read both. He's not going to Indiana.



ONE booster paid the 10 million to shite can Miller. ONE! Dont ever think buyouts will be an issue for either IU or Purdue Basketball.
Posted by mrbroker
Sylacauga Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
17403 posts
Posted on 3/16/21 at 6:44 am to
they mentioned Brad Stevens who may want out at Boston and they mentioned the TT guy who is a Bobby Knight desciple
Posted by Hawgeye
tFlagship Brothel
Member since Jun 2009
31921 posts
Posted on 3/16/21 at 6:49 am to
They won’t get either of those.

Posted by Poker Dough
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2018
9419 posts
Posted on 3/16/21 at 6:51 am to
Nate Oats will stay at least 2 more years, question will be if he believes he can have sustained success there at Bama. If he left for another college job it would have to be a huge step up, which Indiana isn't right now, more a career suicide job

If he leaves it's for the NBA but he hasn't shown any interest yet
This post was edited on 3/16/21 at 6:59 am
Posted by mrbroker
Sylacauga Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
17403 posts
Posted on 3/16/21 at 7:04 am to
Mike Price supports this comment.
Posted by mrbroker
Sylacauga Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
17403 posts
Posted on 3/16/21 at 7:05 am to
maybe so but why?
Posted by Hawgeye
tFlagship Brothel
Member since Jun 2009
31921 posts
Posted on 3/16/21 at 7:14 am to
quote:

maybe so but why?


Stevens isnt leaving a good situation for IU. That one is just a no brainer.

Beard will likely not leave Lubbock until his daughter is of college age. That is why he coveted that job, was because of her. That is why he left UNLV after just a few days when it came open. Had nothing to do with the prestige of the program.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
45370 posts
Posted on 3/16/21 at 7:22 am to
quote:

If he leaves it's for the NBA but he hasn't shown any interest yet


He's a big NBA fan and his offense is very well suited for pro ball, but I think he'd lose his mind coaching pros. They will never buy into his whole blue collar basketball mentality.
Posted by KellerChrystFan
Member since Sep 2018
9630 posts
Posted on 3/16/21 at 4:12 pm to
quote:

They haven't won a championship in a Georgia era time frame.

They are a blue blood in basketball like Minnesota was once a blue blood in Football.

Alabama is a better job. Better recruiting.


Lol. Delusion at its finest.

In no way is Alabama a better job than Indiana. Come on man. Better recruiting is a dumb take. You think 5 stars care that you’re in the south or close to Atlanta/Nashville? 5 stars go to Spokane, Kentucky, Kansas, etc without batting an eye. They’ll have zero problem going to play for a good coach in Bloomington.

That said - he’s not going to leave for IU. He’s only been there 2 years and he’s good enough to hold out for a premier blue blood or NBA. Indiana is on the fringe of the blue bloods - and Alabama isn’t afraid to pay Oats. They’d have to take someone from a school with a weak AD that doesn’t care.
Posted by BLG
Georgia
Member since Mar 2018
7504 posts
Posted on 3/16/21 at 4:31 pm to
quote:

Dont ever think buyouts will be an issue for either IU or Purdue Basketball.



Auburn fans know a thing or two about buyouts
Posted by V Bainbridge
Member since Jul 2020
7883 posts
Posted on 3/16/21 at 4:47 pm to
For the last fricking time, I didn't say Muss sucked or that I don't want him here or that we are blue bloods now after a top 10 finish.

Success is measured in the postseason. If you don't agree with me on that its fine but just say that. If we don't get to the second weekend we haven't actually gotten anymore success than we had with Mike. Does he deserve a raise? Absolutely. Does he deserve top coach money? Not unless we make a deep run.

Therefore if he doesn't get there (I think he will) it isn't the end of the world if another school pays him crazy money to go there and we don't match it. This isn't because we finished in the top 10 and are suddenly a blueblood.

Like you said "We have fixed our problem" when it came to the bad hires. THAT is why I'm not worried about losing Muss and why I am confident that we can make another great hire if we do.

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My first memory watching the hogs was 1994. It's been downhill after that in an Arkansan amalgamation of Stoernovers, muffed punts, missed scoop and scores, and foul bouls.


This is the problem. Don't project your beaten dog syndrome on me. If you want the sky to be falling all the time go for it. It's gotten so bad that half of you frickers think I'm serious when I make fun of it. Jeff Long and John White can't hurt you anymore.
This post was edited on 3/16/21 at 7:55 pm
Posted by Grievous Angel
Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Dec 2008
10305 posts
Posted on 3/16/21 at 4:52 pm to
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In no way is Alabama a better job than Indiana. Come on man. Better recruiting is a dumb take. You think 5 stars care that you’re in the south or close to Atlanta/Nashville? 5 stars go to Spokane, Kentucky, Kansas, etc without batting an eye. They’ll have zero problem going to play for a good coach in Bloomington.


Explain Nebraska. Explain Tennessee. Explain Indiana.

It's recruiting.
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
12448 posts
Posted on 3/16/21 at 4:54 pm to
The past three failed BB coaches at IU tells us there is other problems than just a coach.

Not enough Jimmy Chitwoods anymore

Jimmy Chitwood : I don't know if it'll make any change, but I figured it's time for me to start playing ball.
Posted by KellerChrystFan
Member since Sep 2018
9630 posts
Posted on 3/16/21 at 6:36 pm to
quote:

Explain Nebraska. Explain Tennessee. Explain Indiana. It's recruiting.




This is just stupidity. This isn’t football. You don’t need to recruit 50+ studs. Recruiting is not and will never be an issue for Indiana. It’s not a problem for Tennessee either.

Nebraska football? Sure.
Posted by KellerChrystFan
Member since Sep 2018
9630 posts
Posted on 3/16/21 at 6:38 pm to
quote:

The past three failed BB coaches at IU tells us there is other problems than just a coach. Not enough Jimmy Chitwoods anymore Jimmy Chitwood : I don't know if it'll make any change, but I figured it's time for me to start playing ball.


Yeah - coaching and administration.

Nate Oats turned Bama into a 2 seed in 2 years. Bruce Pearl turned Buzz Peterson’s roster into a 2 seed year 1. This isn’t about recruiting.

I will laugh in the fricking face of anyone that tells me Alabama is a better job than Indiana.
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