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re: My Top ALL-TIME 5 SEC Teams
Posted on 5/27/25 at 12:36 pm to VFL67
Posted on 5/27/25 at 12:36 pm to VFL67
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For forever, the northern voters kept SEC teams from being successful nationally. It's part of the reason why Hank Lauricella and Johnny Majors didn't win Heisman's back in the day, instead losing to players from Princeton and Paul Hornung, who quarterbacked a team to 2-9 lol. Tennessee went undefeated in 1938, but the AP voters felt Notre Dame and TCU were better, even though Tennessee had higher-ranked wins than those schools. It wasn't really till Bear Bryant that the nation started giving southern football its flowers.
The South had to live through it for a hundred years and love their teams anyway, but kicking Yankee butt in an occasional Bowl, was often the only consolation prize. Still is.
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Posted on 5/27/25 at 12:37 pm to VFL67
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The difference is Tennessee from that timeline you chose was playing much higher competition SEC programs in Bama, UGA, and Florida than the years LSU was bad lol
eh, LSU played Alabama and Florida every year during their bad stretch. One of the two won 7 of the 10 SEC titles in the 90s. and they met each other for the SEC title 6 times. LSU was also playing A&M every year from 1990-1995, and A&M was at the height of their program at the time, going 60-11-2 over those 6 years (undefeated in 1994)
This post was edited on 5/27/25 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 5/27/25 at 12:39 pm to lsufball19
Yeah but dont compare early 90s Florida with the Tebow Florida teams. And don't compare 90s Bama with 2010s Bama lol. Pair Tebow, Saban, and Kirby together and no program has had to deal with all that in a ten year stretch.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 12:39 pm to lsufball19
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But we're all just talking on a message board. We are able to talk through what is and isn't bogus. And if we want to include all those claims, for the purposes of the discussion we are having on a message board, LSU and UGA should be able to count claims from those same "bogus" polls. Just because there schools choose not to doesn't mean we can't for the purposes of comparing the three. So, by doing that, UGA and LSU sit at 8 national titles and Tennessee at 7
OK, but your personal credibility on NCs might be just a little lower than Golf Digest.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 12:42 pm to VFL67
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Yeah but dont compare early 90s Florida with the Tebow Florida teams.
Florida won 27 straight SEC games in the 90s. They went 69-9 in the SEC in the 90s. Why wouldn't I?
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Pair Tebow, Saban, and Kirby together and no program has had to deal with all that in a ten year stretch.
Kirby Smart went 8-5 his first year at UGA in 2016. He represents a very small part of that period of time I used, just 2 years of the 10.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 12:45 pm to bamameister
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OK, but your personal credibility on NCs might be just a little lower than Golf Digest.
It has nothing to do with my personal credibility. Tennessee claims national titles given from the same polls that awarded tittles to schools like UGA and LSU, but they, as departments choose not to claim them. Either the polls are credible and should be counted or they're not and shouldn't be counted. If they're credible for Tennessee's counting, why wouldn't they be for LSU and UGA?
This post was edited on 5/27/25 at 12:46 pm
Posted on 5/27/25 at 12:46 pm to bamameister
Louisiana State has fewer wins and more losses versus the Big 6 than any other Big 6 team. They are 6th for that reason.
List is shite.
List is shite.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 1:07 pm to bamameister
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It was close, believe me. But Ole Miss had a period of Southern SEC dominance that I don't think the barners can duplicate.
This is stupid, and hardly even worth the time to argue, but sure let’s go.
All-Time Wins
804- Auburn (14th all time)
686- Ole Miss (39th all time
National Titles
2- Auburn (1957, 2010)
0- Ole Miss
SEC Titles
8- Auburn (1957, 1983, 1987, 1988, 1989, 2004, 2010, 2013)
6- Ole Miss (1947, 1954, 1955, 1960, 1962, 1963)
AP Top 5 Finishes
9- Auburn
5- Ole Miss
AP Top 10 Finishes:
19- Auburn
12- Ole Miss
AP Top 25 Finishes:
40- Auburn
28- Ole Miss
Head-to-Head Results:
Auburn leads series 35-12
All-Time Record vs Top 25 Opponents:
95-205-8, Auburn (32.1%)
59-187-4, Ole Miss (24.4%)
*notice Auburn has played a far more difficult historical schedule. Auburn has played 308 opponents all-time that finished in the Top 25 compared to just 250 for Ole Miss
We can keep going with NFL Draft picks, Heisman winners, All-Americans, etc. but you’re going to be hard pressed to find a single statistical category that Ole Miss leads Auburn in.
This post was edited on 5/27/25 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 5/27/25 at 1:08 pm to lsufball19
LSU claimed titles: 4 (1958, 2003, 2007, 2019)
unclaimed: 4 (1908, 1936, 1962, 2011)
UGA claimed: 4 (1942, 1980, 2021, 2022)
unclaimed: 4 (1920, 1927, 1946, 1948)
Tennessee claimed: 6 (1938, 1940, 1950, 1951, 1967, 1998)
unclaimed: 6 (1914, 1931, 1939, 1956, 1985, 1989)
It seems each school could claim a whole lot more if they wanted. Nobody is stopping UGA and LSU from claiming more. If you look Tennessee has a very legitimate claim to everything they claim, and we still have the ability to claim more than both schools if we wanted...
The team that gets screwed the most is Tennessee for not being more generous in their claims
Side note Auburn has 6 undefeated seasons and only claim two titles. They really are playing this all wrong lol
unclaimed: 4 (1908, 1936, 1962, 2011)
UGA claimed: 4 (1942, 1980, 2021, 2022)
unclaimed: 4 (1920, 1927, 1946, 1948)
Tennessee claimed: 6 (1938, 1940, 1950, 1951, 1967, 1998)
unclaimed: 6 (1914, 1931, 1939, 1956, 1985, 1989)
It seems each school could claim a whole lot more if they wanted. Nobody is stopping UGA and LSU from claiming more. If you look Tennessee has a very legitimate claim to everything they claim, and we still have the ability to claim more than both schools if we wanted...
The team that gets screwed the most is Tennessee for not being more generous in their claims
Side note Auburn has 6 undefeated seasons and only claim two titles. They really are playing this all wrong lol
This post was edited on 5/27/25 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 5/27/25 at 1:11 pm to cajunbama
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Louisiana State has fewer wins and more losses versus the Big 6 than any other Big 6 team. They are 6th for that reason.
List is shite.
Then you really should start a thread with your wish list. Tell us all about how it isn't anything but head-to-head that matters most. I'll stay with my principles stated and sleep just fine.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 1:13 pm to bamameister
Lot's of work for a simple Auburn troll thread. You've gotten 3 pages out of it though, so kudos I guess.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 1:36 pm to BoCam2
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Lot's of work for a simple Auburn troll thread. You've gotten 3 pages out of it though, so kudos I guess.
Then you have no idea the conviction it took for this BAMA guy to put Tennessee 2nd. But All Time history is history.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 1:36 pm to WG_Dawg
I like the way the OP just assigns whatever stats he wants to a team. 
Posted on 5/27/25 at 1:36 pm to bamameister
Oh look, another Bama poster who excludes vacated results for other teams but not his.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 1:39 pm to bamameister
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National championships: 18
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Posted on 5/27/25 at 2:09 pm to lsufball19
IMHO, when comparing programs, it's best to stick with titles that everyone claims (AP, UPI, BCS, Playoffs)
Yes, it is unfortunate that this discounts everything from before 1936 from a national perspective, but for the sake of fairness there's not really a better methodology. If there was a single historical poll that everyone could agree on and was universally accepted, then I could get behind that; however, as there isn't, best to stick with the ones above.
Yes, it is unfortunate that this discounts everything from before 1936 from a national perspective, but for the sake of fairness there's not really a better methodology. If there was a single historical poll that everyone could agree on and was universally accepted, then I could get behind that; however, as there isn't, best to stick with the ones above.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 2:13 pm to bamameister
Imagine that.... a bama fan starts a thread about HIS list of all-time SEC teams and he has bama at #1.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 2:24 pm to bamameister
I’m a bama fan but no one with a functioning brain is putting ole miss ahead of auburn. That’s the dumbest thing you could have possibly said.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 2:26 pm to bamameister
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National championships: 18
Posted on 5/27/25 at 2:29 pm to skrayper
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IMHO, when comparing programs, it's best to stick with titles that everyone claims (AP, UPI, BCS, Playoffs)
Yes, it is unfortunate that this discounts everything from before 1936 from a national perspective, but for the sake of fairness there's not really a better methodology. If there was a single historical poll that everyone could agree on and was universally accepted, then I could get behind that; however, as there isn't, best to stick with the ones above.
I don't disagree
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