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Posted on 5/29/24 at 12:40 pm to
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Posted on 5/29/24 at 12:40 pm to
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Tennessee will roll out arms every year that can throw 100mph+ going forward




You growing them in a lab somewhere? There aren’t many of those dudes on the planet.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/29/24 at 12:51 pm to
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juiced radar guns are juiced. I just subtract about 3-6 MPHs when I see the number so I have an idea of how fast they pitched compared to the 90s and early 2000s


they are not juiced, way more accurate and measure out the hand

the ones for the 80-early 2000s were dog shite. measured as the ball crossed a certain time point and were inaccurate AF. One fastball might be 99, next 84. hell you can go watch some nolan ryan footage and see this.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 5/29/24 at 12:54 pm to
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thats not what strawman means you moron

Ok
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fricking idiot

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I cannot believe you are this stupid. The reason people are throwing harder is because of the changes in how and WHEN the radar gun picks up the ball speed. PERIOD. Or do you think the ball maintains the same speed from release to plate?

You can’t help yourself can you?
This post was edited on 5/29/24 at 12:56 pm
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/29/24 at 12:55 pm to
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I don’t think the radar gun that measured his pitch speed was accurate. I’m aware of the reasoning that has perpetuated the myth and it’s fun to say Ryan threw 108. It’s like everyone watched the Fastball doc and just ran with it as the gospel.

To put it simply, the fastest pitch ever recorded is 105.5. So I’m to believe that a pitcher 50 years ago, who didn’t have the benefit of modern training, threw 3 MPH faster than anyone ever has since. Not likely


and its been disproven by high speed cameras


and i did and still idolize ryan. best pitcher ever imo and way undervalued due to be on dog shite teams

but he would not have been 108

but to give him credit. he was 25 years ahead of everyone else when it comes to training. Lifted, sprinted, used the football as his weighted ball training, etc

but he didnt throw 108. the guns were inaccurate AF back then
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
34737 posts
Posted on 5/29/24 at 12:56 pm to
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The entire point was that radar guns are different now. It used to be a fricking rarity to hit 100 mph. Now its college players popping 100+, MLB players popping 100+, its everywhere.

You really think the human body has evolved in the past 50 years and that men couldnt sling the rock back in the day? Bob Feller was clocked at 98.6 in the 30s and 40s. Using todays tech, he would have been over 100 mph


laughable you dont think it has evolved due to training advances. even just 20 years ago, pitchers were told not to lift.
Posted by ChexMix
Taste the Deliciousness
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 5/29/24 at 1:00 pm to
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laughable you dont think it has evolved due to training advances. even just 20 years ago, pitchers were told not to lift.
Long tossing and lifting weights are a new age method of strength training.

We NEVER did those things 20 years ago ....








Posted by ChexMix
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Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 5/29/24 at 1:02 pm to
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and its been disproven by high speed cameras
link?
Posted by ChexMix
Taste the Deliciousness
Member since Apr 2014
25494 posts
Posted on 5/29/24 at 1:06 pm to
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Lifted, sprinted, used the football as his weighted ball training, etc

another new age method? Ever heard of running foul poles?

We long tossed, lifted weights, rans foul poles, ran miles upon miles. We strength trained. Sorry to burst your bubble
Posted by KingOfTheWorld
South of heaven, west of hell
Member since Oct 2018
6720 posts
Posted on 5/29/24 at 1:12 pm to
Can he throw an off-speed pitch, slice a millimeter off either side off the plate at 88-mph and freeze a batter, hit corners, surgically dissect every MLB batter based on hours and years of study of their tendencies…? In other words, is he a one trick pony or is he a PITCHER?
This post was edited on 5/29/24 at 1:14 pm
Posted by colbycovington
Ruston
Member since Jan 2020
2076 posts
Posted on 5/29/24 at 1:45 pm to
Arkansas has 3 arms that can throw 100.

One is a freshman
Posted by PeleofAnalytics
Member since Jun 2021
3991 posts
Posted on 5/29/24 at 1:53 pm to
Alex, I will take "shite 99.99999% of the world will not even remember a year from now" for $100
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
50332 posts
Posted on 5/29/24 at 4:38 pm to
You would think that Tenn pitcher, Joyce who threw 100 recently would be tearing it up in MLB by now
Posted by cjohn
Georgia
Member since Aug 2014
1199 posts
Posted on 5/29/24 at 10:31 pm to
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Yup! There was times Marcus Phillips hit 100mph on stadium radar gun, but on TV it showed 97-98. So when I see Sneed throw 101 on TV I can only assume it prolly said 102 or 103 at the stadium.


I was at Hoover. It said 101 on 4 different pitches, 100 on a few more and nothing below 97.

As for the 100mph pitchers. There were a handful of them in the 70s and 80s. They were the outliers. In Ryan's case, proper throwing technique and weightlifting/conditioning got him there.

Keep in mind, as a 46 year old, he was still throwing 96-98 when the MLB average speed of a fastball was around 87-88mph. Odds are pretty good that he is the hardest thrower to ever play the game.

What has changed is more players have been able to achieve triple digit spees with training, diet and technique. Today's training probably doesn't add very much to the velocity of players like Ryan and Gossage who were likely already throwing near their theoretical peaks.

This post was edited on 5/29/24 at 10:46 pm
Posted by IamNotaRobot
OKC
Member since Nov 2021
926 posts
Posted on 5/29/24 at 11:30 pm to
Wish they’d teach these young flame throwers how to pitch instead of just throwing hard. I’ll take low-mid 90s who can paint the corners with some movement any day over 100 down the pipe.
Posted by UKWildcats
Lexington, KY
Member since Mar 2015
18100 posts
Posted on 5/29/24 at 11:33 pm to
Oh sure. Sure.
This post was edited on 5/29/24 at 11:34 pm
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
5161 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 6:42 am to
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they are not juiced, way more accurate and measure out the hand



Shhh, don't get in the way of this board's "everything was better when I was younger" fantasies
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
58718 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 6:47 am to
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Mr 101 MPH


Kids today drive so slow



Old Detroit heavy metal V - 8 and really cheap gas and 120 to 150 on the early federal highways was living large!
Posted by BigDickRick16
Tennessee
Member since Mar 2023
2507 posts
Posted on 6/1/24 at 7:48 pm to
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ou have the number 1 baseball team in the nation and post stupid shite like this and wonder why people give Tennessee so much shite.


Thank you sir for the kind words.
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