re: More pressure on smart to beat Bama or Mullen to beat UGA

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watched the full game and UF was NEVER in any danger of losing that game

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Came down to an onside kick, didn’t it?

I'd say there's more pressure on Smart. Georgia's been in position to win a national title for the past couple years, and thus far has failed to do so. He needs to make that happen before the window closes. That's been the difference between UGA and LSU, Auburn, Fla, and Bama- the other SEC teams have capitalized when they've been at the top level, while UGA's trophy case remains dusty and empty.

Florida's returning to that level, isn't quite there yet.

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say there's more pressure on Smart. Georgia's been in position to win a national title for the past couple years, and thus far has failed to do so. He needs to make that happen before the window closes.

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But smart beating bama and losing to Florida isn’t gonna help him win a national title

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I'm saying there's more pressure on Smart than on Mullen.

Mullen can still be expected to, and forgiven for, losing to LSU and UGA; at least for another year. They DO want progress, but I think with another 11-2 season and a pair of competitive losses, the future is still bright for Fla.

Smart, on the other hand, the time is NOW. He's been right there, has failed to pull it off yet. Can't expect to stay 'right there' every season.
You start to become the Oklahoma of the SEC... there (in the championship) because there simply isn't anyone else, but not the team going to push through and win it all.

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Smart, on the other hand, the time is NOW

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Since when?

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Can't expect to stay 'right there' every season.

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I expect us to have a loaded and full roster EVERY year... something that did happen prior to Kirby.We were continually short on players under Richt he rarely if ever had a full recruiting class.

Can we also remember Kirby is still 44 years old and this is his first HC job.

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Y'all UGA fans can debate the semantics if you want. I say there's more pressure on Smart, because the goal is to win national titles when you get your program to the elite level.

Kirby has that program humming along, at a level where you figure it's about as good as it will get. That's a compliment to him btw. So now, the question becomes, can he close the deal and win a title while he's up, or will he be another Richt- get you close, but not finish it out?

I don't think Mullen is at that point at Florida yet, so the expectations are different.

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What about the other SEC east division teams? Like Tennessee or Missouri? They might like the no one is thinking about us and would suddenly surprise everyone and win the east division like Missouri did twice so far after being picked near the bottom of the division.

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Y'all UGA fans can debate the semantics if you want. I say there's more pressure on Smart, because the goal is to win national titles when you get your program to the elite level.

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But uga odds of doing this go up by beating Florida in October rather than bama in September.

Dawg, I'm not trying to argue with you, or troll Georgia fans.

Let's look at the Big 6 programs over the last 20-odd years; from 1998 to present. That's going from the beginning of the BCS.

Team / Division champ / SEC Champ / National Title
Alabama / 8 / 7 / 5
LSU / 6 / 5 / 3
Florida / 7 / 3 / 2
Auburn / 5 / 3 / 1
Tennesee/ 4 / 1 / 1
Georgia / 8 / 3 / 0

Georgia's been in that game as many times as Alabama, but is the only Big 6 team yet to win a natty. You played for one and lost. Bama played for 7, LSU played for 4, Auburn and Florida played for 2. Even Tennessee, in the worst slump in history, got in and won theirs.

Georgia has always been strong, but my own uninformed guess is that your administration doesn't want "strong", they want hardware. Trophies. Titles.
Richt had them in position several times, couldn't get it done. He was fired after a 9-3 season.

Smart's also been close. He was closest his first season, and things have slid back just a hair each succeeding season; won the SEC the first year and lost in the national title game. Then lost a close SEC title game. Then got whipped in the SEC title game. Things are beginning to go in the wrong direction.

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So if you guys don't get back or don't win
your division the next 5 years is O on the
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At LSU? Yeah, if O doesn't win the division the next 5 years, I think he's out. LSU fired Miles for not winning the division, and lots of people swore that we waited too long to do it. Plenty wanted him gone after 2011 and losing the title game, and that hostility grew each season following without hardware.

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I'm saying there's more pressure on Smart than on Mullen.

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Maybe from an outsiders prospective. Go look at the UF boards on other sites and you'll see way more complaining by Gator fans about beating UGA than you'll see UGA fans putting heat on Kirby.

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Orgeron had LSU at 10-3 in 2018,

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I said "competing" and you lost to Bama 29-0 in '18 and this was at home.

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You swap those two teams in division, I suspect LSU wins the East in 18.

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You lost to the 3rd place team in the East that didn't even finish above ,500 in the division.

Under normal circumstances, I would say the pressure is on Mullen. It is his East division rival who he hasn't topped.

But this will be Kirbys best collection of upper-class talent (2018 #1 class in the country will be upperclassmen). It doesn't mean that the talent will drop. But it cant really get any better going forward other than having a heisman season from the QB spot. Does better talent yield better results? That is the pressure on Kirby and the coaching staff