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re: moral equivalency? hunh vs flopping
Posted on 3/10/14 at 2:29 pm to molsusports
Posted on 3/10/14 at 2:29 pm to molsusports
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you just enforce the rule against flopping & protect the safety of players. by having any player who is too injured to leave the field on his own power stay out of the game several minutes to be evaluated properly by medical staff you accomplish both goals.
This is what is confusing. You say here there is a rule that allows you to force a injured player out for several minutes rather than one play, and later you say the penalty falls under the unfair acts rules. Is there something in that section thay allows a ref to hold a player out for a certain amount of time or is a yardage penalty assesed?
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 3:09 pm to narddogg81
Well, we're talking about player safety, right? .. maybe if a player is injured he should sit out for the rest of the series.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:32 pm to bmy
COO
Posted on 3/11/14 at 4:06 pm to arrakis
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The HUNH works within the rules
HUNH came about because of the change to the play clock in 2008. 2008 rule clock change The Hurry Up offense has been around a long time. The NH part came about because of the rule change. Unethical coaches have used it to prevent substitutions. It came about because of a rule change. IMO, having players flop to stop the clock is unethical, but it is within the rules, so use it to your advantage. Some will want to have a rule to stop it, but they're just wussies.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 4:12 pm to Won3ofTheLast5
quote:Really?
The NH part came about because of the rule change.
You realize the man who wrote the book on the HUNH did it well before 2008, right?
And this man already had the #1 offense in the country prior to this clock change?
quote:So you don't know what "ethics" actually means?
Unethical coaches have used it to prevent substitutions.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 4:12 pm to Won3ofTheLast5
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HUNH came about because of the change to the play clock in 2008.
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Unethical coaches have used it to prevent substitutions
let the delusions flow
Posted on 3/11/14 at 4:12 pm to Won3ofTheLast5
quote:Check back in when you have a coach that is considered ethical and not a wuss.
Unethical coaches have used it to prevent substitutions.
This post was edited on 3/11/14 at 4:13 pm
Posted on 3/11/14 at 4:23 pm to joeyb147
Doesn't matter when he wrote the book, the clock rule changes in 2008 changed everything. They're taking advantage of a rule. Defensive teams need to take advantage of the "flop". Whatever players were going to be substituted, one of them needs to flop and sit out for a play, which they were going to do anyway. People will argue for a rule change, and it will be changed back to pre-2008 rules.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 4:27 pm to Won3ofTheLast5
quote:You just said "hurrr durrr The NH part came about because of the rule change durrr."
Doesn't matter when he wrote the book,
Obviously not. You know, since the HUNH philosophy was already established.
quote:Reading comp that hard?
the clock rule changes in 2008 changed everything.
Here, I'll copy and paste it for you.
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this man already had the #1 offense in the country prior to this clock change
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this man already had the #1 offense in the country prior to this clock change
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this man already had the #1 offense in the country prior to this clock change
This post was edited on 3/11/14 at 4:28 pm
Posted on 3/11/14 at 4:28 pm to Won3ofTheLast5
If that's the best your defensive coaches can come up with, by all means flop away.
One other possibility..... maybe they could attend one of Auburn's coaching clinics.
One other possibility..... maybe they could attend one of Auburn's coaching clinics.
This post was edited on 3/11/14 at 4:29 pm
Posted on 3/11/14 at 4:30 pm to Won3ofTheLast5
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Defensive teams need to take advantage of the "flop". Whatever players were going to be substituted, one of them needs to flop and sit out for a play, which they were going to do anyway.
I sincerely hope Alabama does this next year....I truly do. The NCAA and the SEC will be knocking on Saban's door; it will be epic.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 4:31 pm to joeyb147
I don't care when he wrote the book, the game changed because of a 2008 rule change.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 4:32 pm to arrakis
I think it's funny as shite when the entire stadium starts booing.
looks great on TV as well.
looks great on TV as well.
This post was edited on 3/11/14 at 4:35 pm
Posted on 3/11/14 at 4:33 pm to Won3ofTheLast5
quote:Who led the NCAA in total offense in 2007?
the game changed because of a 2008 rule change.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 4:33 pm to Won3ofTheLast5
He was OC for a Toledo team that ranked first in yards in 2007.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 4:53 pm to joeyb147
Missouri ran the most plays in 2007
Posted on 3/11/14 at 4:55 pm to Won3ofTheLast5
quote:No, no they didn't.
Missouri ran the most plays in 2007
Why are you skirting the question? It's simple. Tell me what team led the entire country in yards per game on offense.
ETA: It's the same team that ran the most plays. 1126 plays in 14 games.
ETA2: Missouri ran the HUNH in 2007. What was their NCAA ranking in total offense?
This post was edited on 3/11/14 at 4:59 pm
Posted on 3/11/14 at 4:58 pm to Won3ofTheLast5
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Missouri ran the most plays in 2007
Tulsa ran more plays than Mizzou in 07. In 07, 13 teams ran >1000 plays....in 08, when the clock change occured, it was only 5 teams that ran more than 1,000 plays for the year.
Keep embarrassing yourself.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 5:00 pm to Won3ofTheLast5
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They're taking advantage of a rule.
Quick question, what's the "rule" they are taking advantage of?
Posted on 3/11/14 at 5:01 pm to joeyb147
I'm not against running any offense, but this style of play is about taking advantage of a rule change in 2008, and the people that like that Offense are squawking because other teams want the rules changed so it can't be taken advantage of like is now. Simple enough.
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