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re: Moorhead's rebuild? Really?

Posted on 11/22/19 at 7:45 am to
Posted by Bulldogblitz
In my house
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 11/22/19 at 7:45 am to
Are you a bot?

Bot post seems bot-ish
Posted by Drebin
Member since Aug 2017
4446 posts
Posted on 11/22/19 at 7:48 am to
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You are an insane person. Uncoupled from reality.



If I lined up 50 MSU fans, 47 of them would agree with my take, and the other three probably wouldn't give a damn either way. I think your take applies more appropriately to yourself.
Posted by Drebin
Member since Aug 2017
4446 posts
Posted on 11/22/19 at 7:50 am to
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But MSU averaged 173.8 yards passing in 2018, which you just said is enough to balance the offense. Since he had a great running QB, 2 great RBs, a great OL, and according to you a balanced offense, why didn't he produce?



You are learning what I learned earlier this year....this guy is not interested in facts. Facts mean nothing to idiots.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53468 posts
Posted on 11/22/19 at 8:14 am to
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OM averaged 169 yards passing in those games.


Key WORD.. THOSE

Which games are THOSE.

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But MSU averaged 173.8 yards passing in 2018, which you just said is enough to balance the offense.


Not in THOSE games... No. You didn't.

Vs Bama- 125
Vs LSU- 59
Vs Auburn- 69
vs Uf- 98

Those... KEY words.

He also failed to tell you they have a WR with about 1000 yards. You got one of those that demands covering?

Do you know why they have more 4 star talent? Because they throw it. They may not be the best due to youth, but that's why they have throughout the tenure of Freeze.

You know freeze right? The guy that beat us 2 years straight and came close a 3rd year.



Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53468 posts
Posted on 11/22/19 at 8:15 am to
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I'd rather collect a good class and wait and see, next year, before roster issues become much worse. That is something that can hurt a new coach tremendously.



Whoever Ark hires, they will be there for 5 years. bad hire or not. They won't have an option.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53468 posts
Posted on 11/22/19 at 8:18 am to
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Google says State won 9


No.. Google states MS ST won 9. Dan was in UF at the end of Nov.

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Also, if I recall correctly, the expectations were very high for State going into the 2018 season.


And the reality is they lost a NFL OL, NFL TE, 5 Wrs of the 10 they had of the 112th rank passing offense.

Period

Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53468 posts
Posted on 11/22/19 at 8:20 am to
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You are learning what I learned earlier this year....this guy is not interested in facts. Facts mean nothing to idiots.


And this is why you are uncoupled from reality. You can't even comprehend what's being stated.

He listed games and said clearly...THOSE GAMES. And that EDman is a FACT.



Posted by Drebin
Member since Aug 2017
4446 posts
Posted on 11/22/19 at 8:36 am to
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And this is why you are uncoupled from reality. You can't even comprehend what's being stated.

He listed games and said clearly...THOSE GAMES. And that EDman is a FACT.


Okay, Corky.

Most folks know when to stop posting in a thread because they've had their arse handed to themselves. But I admire your lack of self awareness.

Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
25195 posts
Posted on 11/22/19 at 8:38 am to
Even by your standards this is worrisome. Have you been self medicating?
Posted by MSUcoast
Gulfport, MS
Member since Oct 2014
637 posts
Posted on 11/22/19 at 9:53 am to
I'm just here to say Moorhead sucks. The guy is completely lost and every MSU fan expects us to get boat raced in the Egg Bowl. He will get one more year and we will fall into Arkansas level of bad. I never expected to see the Croom days again but they are here.
Posted by Godawgs4
Member since Aug 2016
4251 posts
Posted on 11/22/19 at 10:44 am to
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“Yeah, I stopped reading right here. You should probably log off and delete your user name.

Sylvester Croom was only good at three things: Eating, cashing checks, and blaming everyone else for his problems. He is easily the worst coach in the history of SEC football. He didn't build anything.”


Not sure what planet you were living on in 2004. I love Coach Sherrill but his last two years we were a dumpster fire. Then when Croom came in, he eventually purged about 20 talented but malcontents from the team thereby ensuring that 2004-2005 were going to be terrible years. And they were. However, by 2006, the team was getting better and in 2007 we had a good year. 2008 brought some unfortunate issues that derailed the team and after the Oxford beat down, a change was appropriate. But nonetheless, he had recruited well and left an outstanding 2009 class that CDM inherited.
He left a solid foundation that CDM built on. No way in the world was he the worst coach in SEC history. Did you forget your meds? What are you smoking?
I appreciate what he did for our program and if you look beyond just his record , he left the State program in much better shape than he found it in when he started.
Posted by yatesdog38
in your head rent free
Member since Sep 2013
12737 posts
Posted on 11/22/19 at 10:51 am to
So what you are saying is you are gonna be thankful that Joe Moorhead should be appreciated for improving the roster to a much more respectable place than Dan left us with? K.

I guess we should go hire Matt Rhule then. I'm sure he'd love to come to Starkville.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53468 posts
Posted on 11/22/19 at 11:08 am to
Didn't you know EDdrebin is a fudging genius and knows what's best for your university.

Saban could become the coach and tell him the roster has been mismanaged and he would tell Saban he is an idiot.

That is the calling card of the EDs
Posted by Drebin
Member since Aug 2017
4446 posts
Posted on 11/22/19 at 11:09 am to
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Not sure what planet you were living on in 2004. I love Coach Sherrill but his last two years we were a dumpster fire. Then when Croom came in, he eventually purged about 20 talented but malcontents from the team thereby ensuring that 2004-2005 were going to be terrible years. And they were. However, by 2006, the team was getting better and in 2007 we had a good year. 2008 brought some unfortunate issues that derailed the team and after the Oxford beat down, a change was appropriate. But nonetheless, he had recruited well and left an outstanding 2009 class that CDM inherited.
He left a solid foundation that CDM built on. No way in the world was he the worst coach in SEC history. Did you forget your meds? What are you smoking?
I appreciate what he did for our program and if you look beyond just his record , he left the State program in much better shape than he found it in when he started.


I'll tell you exactly where I was in 2004. I was a loyal BDC member in the midst of a ten year streak of going to all games - home and road. You were accurate in stating that Jackie's last two seasons were dumpster fires. Everything else in your post is bullshite. Croom was a heinous football coach in every possible way. He didn't throw malcontents off the team, he threw players that weren't his guys off the team. Then he recruited guys who got in just as much trouble off the field as the previous ones did. His offense was a complete shite show, much like Moorhead's. His saving grace in 2007 was Ellis Johnson and the defense. We were not a good football team in 2007 and that might have been one of the ugliest Liberty Bowls in the history of the franchise.

The most frightening thing to me is that people who think like you actually roam the earth and live among us.
Posted by BobLeeDagger
In Your Head
Member since May 2016
6915 posts
Posted on 11/22/19 at 11:12 am to
I mean, at least Drebin is looking at the product on the field. You keep referencing recruiting rankings and how we look on paper, none of which means jack shite if you are unorganized and can't develop game plans to be competitive in games against even mediocre programs in the division.

Ole Miss and Matt Luke inherited an even shittier situation than Joe did (State has outrecruited Ole Miss 3/4 last years), and they have looked head and shoulders more competitive than State in every comparable game this year. That's a fact.
This post was edited on 11/22/19 at 11:18 am
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53468 posts
Posted on 11/22/19 at 11:50 am to
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I mean, at least Drebin is looking at the product on the field. You keep referencing recruiting rankings and how we look on paper, none of which means jack shite if you are unorganized and can't develop game plans to be competitive in games against even mediocre programs in the division.


EDdrebin is only looking at what he wants to look at because it suits his goal.

I'm looking at the whole picture as well as others in this thread that are Ms St fans not a part of the Ed's.

What you see on paper is being reflected on the field. You dont return 4 starters on defense with 2 suspended and a depleted interior and expect much. Nobody in a normal frame of mind would do that.

You dont lose 50% of your offensive production and expect there to be a top offense from that roster.

You expect improvements while building.

Vs LSU in 2018 how many passing yards did you have. 69? Now how many in 2019 with a true freshman qb??

Just be logical.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53468 posts
Posted on 11/22/19 at 11:52 am to
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Ole Miss and Matt Luke inherited an even shittier situation than Joe did (State has outrecruited Ole Miss 3/4 last years), and they have looked head and shoulders more competitive than State in every comparable game this year. That's a fact.


Once again...

-5 star rob. Do you have that?
-5 to 6 4 star wrs.... do you have that?

Posted by BobLeeDagger
In Your Head
Member since May 2016
6915 posts
Posted on 11/22/19 at 12:05 pm to
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EDdrebin is only looking at what he wants to look at because it suits his goal.


That's exactly what you are doing here below.


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-5 star rob. Do you have that?



You're really showing your arse here. You're telling me Ealy is better than Hill? Both have games under their belt. Let go of recruiting rankings. I've already shown you that they are in State's favor, and yet Ole Miss continues to outplay State in comparable games.
This post was edited on 11/22/19 at 12:12 pm
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53468 posts
Posted on 11/22/19 at 12:43 pm to
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That's exactly what you are doing here below.


My goal isnt to fire or hire anybody.

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You're really showing your arse here.


By pointing out rosters?

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You're telling me Ealy is better than Hill? 


As a true freshman, yes he is. What was Hill doing as a true freshman?

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I've already shown you that they are in State's favor, 


Then show me. Because as of now you have not. They have 5 or 6 wrs/te..that are better. This isnt hard. And the truth is Moorhead is addressing that.

But you want him fired

Posted by Drebin
Member since Aug 2017
4446 posts
Posted on 11/22/19 at 12:46 pm to
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Jjdoc



WTF is an ED? What the hell are you talking about?
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