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Posted on 11/20/19 at 9:32 pm to anc
Couldn't UConn open up? Moorhead used to coach there too. I feel like that could be Plan B
Posted on 11/20/19 at 9:39 pm to anc
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She said it is not worth debating whether Schiano had direct knowledge that boys were being sexually abused by one of his co-workers. As a coach on the Penn State staff, the fact that he either didn’t know or didn’t do anything about it should disqualify him from Rutgers’ top job.
This right here should tell you how much bullshite this is.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 9:40 pm to anc
Just beat Morehead by 18
Posted on 11/20/19 at 9:41 pm to VADawg
It is. But Tennessee fell for it.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 9:48 pm to anc
I don’t think Rutgers could take our OC or DC and promoting them to HC. I can’t imagine them taking a HC.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 9:51 pm to cave canem
The good news either way, is you have an admin that is proactive. They won't be caught off guard. I feel pretty confident they are on it now. Just saying.
The bad news, you will lose recruits based on Moorhead not being there. That is factual too. And those recruits would stick even if Moorhead lost to Ole Miss. No coach is going to come in and save your top recruit and 2 others. That too is factual. Just saying.
And what some of you that is pushing it don't get are real facts. I'm being serious with you that if that small vocal group wins out and succeeds in pushing him out, get ready for a 5 year build. As I was told, the roster is horrible and fixing part of it (not all) requires this class. You are looking at:
- Lack of RBs
- Lack of QBs
- lack of WRs (which is a problem already)
- more losses on defense.
So who ever you get, they will be in place for 3-5 years... good, bad, great, horrible. You will be paying Moorhead and the new coach.
He has out recruited your former coach. Per your people, he signed the most 4 star recruits in a 2 year period since the 2000s. Per your people, he signed your very first 5 star OL ever.
You would have had Lashley (we took him) because Mullen walked away from the recruitment of him. Hell, because of Mullen and the lack of passing, you could not keep the WR from Starkville. Who the hell did Mullen ever recruit at that position?
BUT HEY... It won't matter to me, you have not beat us since Croom. What's that??? 15 years?
The bad news, you will lose recruits based on Moorhead not being there. That is factual too. And those recruits would stick even if Moorhead lost to Ole Miss. No coach is going to come in and save your top recruit and 2 others. That too is factual. Just saying.
And what some of you that is pushing it don't get are real facts. I'm being serious with you that if that small vocal group wins out and succeeds in pushing him out, get ready for a 5 year build. As I was told, the roster is horrible and fixing part of it (not all) requires this class. You are looking at:
- Lack of RBs
- Lack of QBs
- lack of WRs (which is a problem already)
- more losses on defense.
So who ever you get, they will be in place for 3-5 years... good, bad, great, horrible. You will be paying Moorhead and the new coach.
He has out recruited your former coach. Per your people, he signed the most 4 star recruits in a 2 year period since the 2000s. Per your people, he signed your very first 5 star OL ever.
You would have had Lashley (we took him) because Mullen walked away from the recruitment of him. Hell, because of Mullen and the lack of passing, you could not keep the WR from Starkville. Who the hell did Mullen ever recruit at that position?
BUT HEY... It won't matter to me, you have not beat us since Croom. What's that??? 15 years?
Posted on 11/20/19 at 9:52 pm to BrerTiger
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Would be like State falling out of a truck and landing in a pot of gold. Assuming they hire someone better.
Gus?
Posted on 11/20/19 at 9:56 pm to The Winner
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JJ Doc you were the one spouting out that Moorhead was going to win big here.
LMAO... the man has been there for 1 year. He isn't done with year 2 yet!
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If anyone is having revisonist history. It's you.
No, I have not changed anything.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 11:27 pm to PorkDawg
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Joe Moorhead has no business being a head coach at any P5 school
Sounds like the perfect guy for Rutgers
Posted on 11/20/19 at 11:28 pm to Jjdoc
I feel like you are missing the biggest point. It’s not that we lost the games that we have lost. It is how unprepared and uninspired the team has played. That doesn’t require talent top to bottom on a team. It’s one thing to get beat by a more talented team. Hell we do that every year. It is another to look how we have in a majority of our games this year.
I feel like Moorhead could be successful if he had an enforcer assistant head coach that handled game time decisions and personnel. All in all I think he is a great offensive coordinator but a terrible head coach. It happens.
I feel like Moorhead could be successful if he had an enforcer assistant head coach that handled game time decisions and personnel. All in all I think he is a great offensive coordinator but a terrible head coach. It happens.
This post was edited on 11/20/19 at 11:31 pm
Posted on 11/21/19 at 12:06 am to Jjdoc
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that if that small vocal group wins out and succeeds in pushing him out
Small my arse.
Dude, just stop. Get his cock out of your mouth, eat your crow, and. just. STOP.
You're not a fan of this program; you don't know the big picture nor the intricacies, you're just trying to save face. You're so far off base, and yet your pompous arse thinks that you know this program better than those who, like every other fanbase, have bled the school colors for their entire lives- and for generations.
And stop upvoting yourself.
Right now, it's a 4 year rebuild at schools like State to even get an 8+ win team, so stop with this " oR eLsE fIvE yEaR rEbUiLd" chit.
F*ck your subjecive roster and recruiting "stats" and look at the ACTUAL stats and most importantly, listen to the overwhelming MAJORITY: Aside from the CHITTASTIC production stats and glaring on-the-field disciplinary and team cohesion problems and so much more (and aside from, "but muh, recrootin'") it's the INTANGIBLES that are now painfully obvious to even the BRIGHTEST of sunshine-pumpers: Joe Moorehead is not ready- not right now, and State is not ready for him.
Your schtick is old, and for you to say that we ought to be ashamed to not give him 2 or 3 years more- AFTER a 2 year dumpster fire of him burning the entire thing down that we fans and alummi worked so hard to build up from the ashes and burning it down in the blink of an eye- or else risk a 5 year rebuild is the stupidest chit I've heard today, and it proves that you've no idea about this program, nor how long it takes for it to get the stars to align to make some noise NOR how quickly it can spiral into a black hole of misery.
The time is nigh: he has got to go, because State ain't the place for him- not right now. The man has alot of learning to do.
So tldr: Dude, shut up with your condescending and incredibly ignorant and inaccurate DRIVEL.
Only a fool speaks of that which he does not know.
Posted on 11/21/19 at 12:26 am to Jjdoc
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The bad news, you will lose recruits based on Moorhead not being there. That is factual too. And those recruits would stick even if Moorhead lost to Ole Miss. No coach is going to come in and save your top recruit and 2 others. That too is factual. Just saying.
It would not matter, he just flat out is not a good head coach at this stage of his career, if he is able to step back and reevaluate some things he may become one but he is in way over his head.
I have no hate for the man and wish the best for him, it just has not worked out and he has given no one the confidence it will.
Posted on 11/21/19 at 12:35 am to anc
I don’t think Moorhead is a bad coach. Let’s not forget that Mississippi State up until a few years ago was a perennial doormat program in the SEC. Be careful what you wish for; you might not get a better coach. In fact, it’s more likely that you won’t.
Posted on 11/21/19 at 12:40 am to lsufan1971
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Would be like State falling out of a truck and landing in a pot of gold.
We have done that before
Posted on 11/21/19 at 2:02 am to Carl Tuckerson
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I think the only way they fail to do this is to shut down the program
Willie Taggart and others could be down grades from Moorehead. Part of the problem at State is Mullen did so good their and changing the style of offense.
Posted on 11/21/19 at 3:19 am to Jjdoc
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The bad news, you will lose recruits based on Moorhead not being there. That is factual too. And those recruits would stick even if Moorhead lost to Ole Miss. No coach is going to come in and save your top recruit and 2 others. That too is factual. Just saying.
True. We would lose vital recruits and a new coach wouldn't have time to find equal replacements within this cycle. At Florida State you can probably pull that off, but not here. This is something that some State fans aren't being honest with themselves about. We'd lose key recruits, then get hit with transfers and lose roster integrity. Ole Miss and others will collect.
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You would have had Lashley (we took him) because Mullen walked away from the recruitment of him
Mullen hates recruiting, but the loss of Lashley was just as well.
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because of Mullen and the lack of passing, you could not keep the WR from Starkville. Who the hell did Mullen ever recruit at that position?
De'Runnya Wilson, Chad Bumphis, Fred Ross and Osiris Mitchell who is a junior and best WR this year.
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BUT HEY... It won't matter to me, you have not beat us since Croom. What's that??? 15 years?
We aren't the only ones in the west even and it's been 12 years.
Honestly, with an Ole Miss loss, Moorhead needs to be replaced, but only if with a strong candidate lined up, if not, I'm not sure what I'd do. However, If Moorhead wins the Eggbowl, he's here in 2020.
Posted on 11/21/19 at 4:35 am to aerodawg
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All in all I think he is a great offensive coordinator
What leads you to believe this?
Posted on 11/21/19 at 6:28 am to PorkDawg
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Even Croom’s teams had a little bit of toughness to them.
Crooms record wasn’t good but he had many many losses that were very close and always was good for a big exciting upset.
Example 2006 season
Lost 15-0 to USCe
Lost by 3 to Tulane (yea I know)
Lost by 3 to Georgia
Lost by 3 to Kentucky
Beat Alabama
Lost 28-14 to #5 Arkansas
Lost by 3 to Ole Miss
Finished 3-9 but easily could have been a bowl eligible team had things bounced our way
Posted on 11/21/19 at 7:53 am to Farmer1906
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I can’t imagine them taking a HC.
you obviously don't know the definition of "take"
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