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re: Mizzou Senior missing in Nashville-*UPDATED*-Found Deceased
Posted on 3/13/24 at 8:43 am to BigOrangeBri
Posted on 3/13/24 at 8:43 am to BigOrangeBri
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I don’t think he was saying it’s unsafe. Just that there’s a bunch of drunk people contained within a relatively small area
Exactly. I love Nashville, I have family there and visit relatively frequently. Broadway isn’t exactly my scene but I’ve gone out in the area enough on weekend nights to have a feel for it. I wouldn’t consider it inherently unsafe at all. For how rowdy it can get, I actually think the city does a good job of handling the crowds compared to other similar bar areas across the country. My only point was that it’s still an environment where someone can be stumbling drunk and it’s not inconceivable that no one really notices, simply because of the sheer volume of other drunk people.
I would agree with the other guy that Beale, French Quarter, dirty 6th in Austin, etc. are much more of a free for all and dangerous in comparison.
This post was edited on 3/13/24 at 9:09 am
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 8:46 am to heels09
In terms of safety, anyone who compares Broadway to Beale St. or the French Quarter is an idiot.
Posted on 3/13/24 at 8:59 am to themetalreb
Agreed. In Nashville you have a chance if you stray away from Broadway. NOLA and Memphis you are playing Russian roulette with 3-4 rounds in the cylinder .
Posted on 3/13/24 at 9:05 am to themetalreb
No one was comparing the safety of those places. The guy that originally brought up Beale and Bourbon was just using those as examples of places that belligerently drunk people can blend into a crowd, which I think is fair.
This post was edited on 3/13/24 at 9:21 am
Posted on 3/13/24 at 9:10 am to heels09
I have only been to Beale st a few times but I can promise you, in NOLA if you wander off Bourbon st in the condition he was in, this “blending” in you speak of won’t be a thing. Something is going to happen to you more often than not. It happened to someone in our wedding party the night before our wedding. I would venture to say someone might even be stalking you if they saw you walking like that drunk by yourself on Bourbon. It’s just not the same.
Posted on 3/13/24 at 9:10 am to Fearless_and_True
quote:https://waterdata.usgs.gov/monitoring-location/03431500/#parameterCode=72255&period=P7D&showMedian=false
Isn’t there a MIT Physics grad who could calculate the rivers current, BMI, height, etc; with variables and give a pretty accurate mini grid of where his body might be if he did go into the river?
mean water velocity for the Cumberland in Nashville was around 4 ft per second from 3/8 to 3/10 - that's just how fast the water itself is flowing -
Fox17 in Nash had this updated last night - it's difficult to watch but gives a recount of known/captured events -
https://fox17.com/news/local/nashville-police-release-surveillance-video-of-riley-strain-on-night-he-went-missing
the time that has passed doesn't lend to a good outcome - if there's a miracle for this young man and his family - let it be soon -
This post was edited on 3/13/24 at 9:25 am
Posted on 3/13/24 at 9:55 am to Funky Tide 8
Unfortunately best case is he was kidnapped. Any other outcome(other than a run away which doesn't make sense) likely means he was either murdered or drowned. Too much time has gone by for there to a logical outcome
Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:18 am to mizslu314
No update I'm assuming? Yeah this isn't good 
Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:20 am to mizslu314
quote:while I agree it’s hard to imagine someone trying to kidnap a guy this big
Unfortunately best case is he was kidnapped.
Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:37 am to theCAW
Not if you offer him a ride or to help him out. In his state of mind there is no way he would have known what was happening
Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:42 am to FredbullTN
quote:could see it possibly being done but not sure the motive besides possibly extortion of family? If that was the motive the. We’d be hearing about it already no?
Not if you offer him a ride or to help him out. In his state of mind there is no way he would have known what was happening
Yes drunk and vulnerable but still a strange target to kidnap for the frick if it due to size.
Rob/mug, sure
But kidnap? What would the motive be then? And if just to rob, it could be done pretty quick, wouldn’t lead to him missing for days I do t think
Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:45 am to IamNotaRobot
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If they knew he got kicked out someone should’ve waited outside with him
Just ran across this interview with his family. (Heads up — his mom is sobbing at the beginning, which is hard to watch.)
At about 30 seconds in, his dad indicates he was kicked out because the bartender said he had been over-served, and that when they took him out, "his friend was trying to go out with him but they would not let him at that point."
Not sure how that even makes sense, unless the friend meant they hadn't closed the tab yet, or that he just couldn't exit without losing his cover, etc.
Anyone see anything else on why exactly the friend might not have been allowed to leave the bar with him?
Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:50 am to theCAW
I don’t know why anyone is talking about violence. Even if some skirmish did happen along the river, it’s obviously a case of someone who was extremely vulnerable while none of the dozens of people who had an opportunity did anything to help.
Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:53 am to Dallaswho
quote:was just responding to the guy saying best case scenario at this point would be he was kidnapped and said I agree but have a hard time picturing someone seeing a 6’7” dude and thinking he’d be their ideal target
don’t know why anyone is talking about violence.
Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:53 am to theCAW
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Rob/mug, sure
But kidnap? What would the motive be then? And if just to rob, it could be done pretty quick, wouldn’t lead to him missing for days I do t think
I guess the new paradigm is not only going after cash in the wallet, but carting the kidnapped person around to different ATM's or credit card cash advance machines.
Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:56 am to paperwasp
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his dad indicates he was kicked out because the bartender said he had been over-served, and that when they took him out, "his friend was trying to go out with him but they would not let him at that point."
So, an overfilled bar kidnapped the friend and held him against his will?!?
Posted on 3/13/24 at 11:10 am to Funky Tide 8
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He got no tail, and decided to take a scooter back to east where we were staying. Ended up wiping out, skinned his face up real bad, maybe chipped a tooth, possibly a concussion
Speaking of...A very close friend is dead from one of those Nashville scooters...Him and some buddies had just left the Titans game and were taking scooters to a place to eat....it was dusk dark and he hit a small pothole and he went headfirst over the handlebars....he face planted on the pavement and when they got there to him there was blood coming out of his nose...ears and mouth. He spent 5 days at Vanderbilt hospital in a coma with no signs of life except a heartbeat. They unhooked him and he died pretty quickly afterwards..
The neurologist at Vanderbilt said it was unreal how many were brought to just Vanderbilt who were hurt riding those scooters.
Posted on 3/13/24 at 11:14 am to paperwasp
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unless the friend meant they hadn't closed the tab yet, or that he just couldn't exit without losing his cover
Or maybe the other frat brothers wouldn't let him go yet for some reason.
Posted on 3/13/24 at 11:17 am to theCAW
In a legal sense kidnapping is taking someone against their will. They don’t have to necessarily hold him for ransom. Like another poster said, they could have taken him to the ATM, got what they could and then gotten rid of him.
Regardless, If I were a betting man I would be he somehow accidentally got in the river.
Regardless, If I were a betting man I would be he somehow accidentally got in the river.
Posted on 3/13/24 at 11:26 am to gladchiefisgone
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Speaking of...A very close friend is dead from one of those Nashville scooters...Him and some buddies had just left the Titans game and were taking scooters to a place to eat....it was dusk dark and he hit a small pothole and he went headfirst over the handlebars....he face planted on the pavement and when they got there to him there was blood coming out of his nose...ears and mouth. He spent 5 days at Vanderbilt hospital in a coma with no signs of life except a heartbeat. They unhooked him and he died pretty quickly afterwards..
The neurologist at Vanderbilt said it was unreal how many were brought to just Vanderbilt who were hurt riding those scooters.
damn man, my condolences. That's awful. And yes, those things are accidents waiting to happen, especially considering how many inebriated people jump on them. My gf worked at Vanderbilt Neurology, and yes, they had several scooter accident patients.
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