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re: Mizzou Senior missing in Nashville-*UPDATED*-Found Deceased

Posted on 3/22/24 at 12:51 pm to
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 3/22/24 at 12:51 pm to
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How accurate are toxicology tests after being in the water for 14 days?
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Evidence shows that alcohol can be produced postmortem in a submerged body by microbial contamination and fermentation, and this phenomenon is even more significant the higher the water temperature and the longer the submersion time.

Compared to alcohol postmortem changes, very little is known about the long-term stability of drugs in bodies found in water.

Postmortem redistribution of drugs is a well-known phenomenon that is likely to affect the concentrations of certain drugs.

Finally, the possible difference between saltwater and freshwater drowning on drug concentrations is still to be investigated.

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Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 3/22/24 at 1:03 pm to
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I'm not. There were a bunch of mentally ill psychopaths' and TikTokers baselessly accusing everyone involved of drugging him or bearing some culpability here.

No fricking shite they lawyered up.


I don't think that's why they lawyered up at all. They lawyered up for 2 main reasons: 1. there's a slight chance this could take a criminal turn or that a civil action will be taken against them (with anything high profile and involving the parents of college students expect a thorough investigation and authorities to suddenly find things to do that they'd never do otherwise - one example from this case already is that TABC is investigating whether Strain was overserved). 2. they were young men wilding in Nashville - do you really think they want every bit of what happened on record and exposed to the public? Lawyers protect you from making stupid statements that wind up in the public record just as well as they do from statements that can be used against you in criminal or civil prosecution.
Posted by borotiger
Murfreesboro Tennessee
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/22/24 at 1:04 pm to
A horrible result. I feel so bad for his family. I will talk with my 23 yo about this in hopes that it helps her feel, not scared but, less invincible.
Posted by jatebe
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Posted on 3/22/24 at 1:55 pm to
My prayers go to his family.

I do think it was pretty crappy that his fraternity brothers let him go off by himself, considering they say he was drunk.

At least 2 of his friends should have taken him back to the hotel. I guess they were too busy partying to think about the safety of their friend.
Posted by deeprig9
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 3/22/24 at 2:24 pm to
His friends apparently lied when they say Luke Bryan's threw him out the back door into an alley, and wouldn't let their friends follow him, however the store surveillance shows them escort Riley out the FRONT DOOR main entrance, with one of his friends WITH THEM, and the friend decided to turn around and go back inside to keep partying. Luke Bryan also says their receipts show they only served Riley 1 alcoholic drink and two waters before they tossed him.

This is why they are lawyering up. Potential suits from the parents and from the bar who they slandered.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 3/22/24 at 2:56 pm to
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This is why they are lawyering up. Potential suits from the parents and from the bar who they slandered.


I could maybe see the slander of the bar angle, but what are the parents going to sue the friends for? They aren't responsible for another adult's actions. Morally, yeah they should have helped their buddy get back to the hotel safely, but I don't think they had any legal obligation.
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 3/22/24 at 2:58 pm to
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I could maybe see the slander of the bar angle, but what are the parents going to sue the friends for? They aren't responsible for another adult's actions. Morally, yeah they should have helped their buddy get back to the hotel safely, but I don't think they had any legal obligation.


The only thing I can see is that the fraternity may have some liability since it was a frat event.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 3/22/24 at 3:10 pm to
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The only thing I can see is that the fraternity may have some liability since it was a frat event.


Possibly. I wondered if there could be some issue if the bar says he was served one drink but his friends were giving him drinks.

Either way, the saddest part is if one of those friends gave enough of a shite to make sure he made it back to the room ok then this likely doesn’t happen.
Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 3/22/24 at 5:30 pm to
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lot more people are murdered in Nashville every year than die by accidentally falling into the river and drowning.

So the simplest and most likely scenario is he was murdered.



I mean, it’s pretty clear you thought he was murdered. You thought the idea of him falling in and drowning was silly.
Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
12281 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 5:31 pm to
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Tens of millions of people get drunk on Broadway and surrounding areas every year.

Yet you almost never hear of someone accidentally falling in the river and drowning..

You say this is the most logical explanation. Yet history seems to say otherwise.


Do you get drunk and forget what you post?
Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
12281 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 5:32 pm to
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And if you look up the number of homicides in all of those cities, they will dwarf accidental drownings each and every year. No one is saying people can’t drown. No one is saying people don’t drown. People aren’t saying this guy didn’t drown. They are saying statistically it is a lot more likely he was murdered than he fell in the river accidentally and drowned.


Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 3/22/24 at 5:47 pm to
and?


as I wrote, it was anecdotal, and it was evidence



you're a fricking loser to play a "gotcha" game in a situation like this
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 3/22/24 at 5:52 pm to
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I mean, it’s pretty clear you thought he was murdered. You thought the idea of him falling in and drowning was silly.




So did I. What about it?


People on here getting satisfaction about how he died are some sick puppies.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
8092 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 6:06 pm to
You seem very excited they found him in the river. Congrats on your win.I guess.
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