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Posted on 9/15/24 at 6:44 pm to
Posted by pankReb
Defending National Champs Fan
Member since Mar 2009
71616 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 6:44 pm to
MSU fans need to pony(lol) up some money for their NIL and bring in some solid talent this offseason you guys are way behind on that and this is how college football works now.
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
6369 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 6:46 pm to
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This didn’t happen overnight. We brought in Coach Leach, who never was known as a recruiter. After his passing, we promoted within and now the ripples have turned into waves. We have had lineman and db’s that are in the NFL now, but have not continued to restock the roster with that kind of talent in the last 3 years and it shows. We haven’t hit the bottom yet. Tennessee could hang 75 on us without much effort. Somehow we have to recruit a higher level of talent through high school or the portal.


Some of this is not true. Leach won 9 games before his death. He had a loaded QB room and WR room. The team was not depleted. Your starting RB is in an AR system at USC. Your back up QB is in an AR at Wisconsin. They left because of the change in system, not coaches.

When you hired Arnett, he totally F'd up your tooled AR team. Players not happy with Arnett with no vision, looked for new homes. NIL money taking players because of being unhappy.

Your current issue is in the trenches. You hired Cody Kennedy. WHY? That guy is straight up horrible. Ask any Arkansas fan.

You hired a DC that nobody knew and has zero experience. When the head is lost due to a lack of experience, the players are going to be lost in game play. The dude never loaded the box against ASU. He tried adjustments vs Toledo, but it looked to be adjustments for the sake of adjustments. The guy has never game planned for a defense and he has never (before this year) called a game.

Not everything is a player issue. 10 sacks in 3 games....TEN! Good ole Cody! Killing another OL....
Posted by pankReb
Defending National Champs Fan
Member since Mar 2009
71616 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 6:49 pm to
quote:

He had a loaded QB room and WR room. The team was not depleted. Your starting RB is in an AR system at USC. Your back up QB is in an AR at Wisconsin. They left because of the change in system, not coaches.


Football rosters are ONLY made up of receivers and QBs. FACT.
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
6369 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 6:51 pm to
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CleverUserName


This guy gets it.
Posted by msudawg1200
Central Mississippi
Member since Jun 2014
10636 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 6:57 pm to
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Posted by msudawg1200
Central Mississippi
Member since Jun 2014
10636 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 6:59 pm to
quote:

Lost bowl game even though opposing team had negative yards rushing.

Won the bowl game in Tampa after Leach died 13-10 over Illinois. You're thinking about JoMo losing to Iowa in Tampa in 2018.
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
26709 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 7:01 pm to
Coach Leach passed away and State hasn't recovered.
Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
61488 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 7:10 pm to
quote:

Your current issue is in the trenches. You hired Cody Kennedy. WHY? That guy is straight up horrible. Ask any Arkansas fan.

DIng ding ding. A few Arky fans even warned us.
Posted by GwoodReb28
The Heart of the Delta
Member since Sep 2015
177 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 7:22 pm to
They wanted him fired though, I know he passed and that is sad, but they were in the middle of arranging his exit.... then when he passes, his death becomes the excuse? I am sorry I do not buy that
Posted by GwoodReb28
The Heart of the Delta
Member since Sep 2015
177 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 7:23 pm to
They were making arrangements for his exit/firing.... then when he passes away they use that as an excuse. I'm sorry, I'm not buying that.
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
15041 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 8:03 pm to
quote:

They were making arrangements for his exit/firing.... then when he passes away they use that as an excuse. I'm sorry, I'm not buying that.


That's a load of shite. We had just won 9 games and Leach was going to upgrade at qb. State fans were finally on the Leach train full go.
Posted by HottyToddy7
Member since Sep 2010
15248 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 8:10 pm to
If the 2 point conversion went the other way he would have been 0-3 in egg bowls and not recruiting defensive players. He would have had to eat 23 and 24. The 0-3 egg bowl would have had him on the hot seat at least or fired.
Posted by HenryV
Member since Jan 2024
336 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 8:38 pm to
The good news is that you play Florida this weekend. Who knows? Toledo might be better than the Gators. Go pull the upset.

(This reply is to the original post, not Hotty Toddy7,)
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40191 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 8:51 pm to
Leach ran a system that didn’t need elite athletes, which was great fir a place like State. They could take 3 stars and coach them up in a simplified system. Would likely never win a natty, but could win 9-10 games a year, get to a nice bowl and maybe sneak in a 12 tr playoff.

Hiring Arnett threw all that away, they should have hired an AR disciple.
Posted by STATEofMIND
Member since Oct 2012
5384 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 8:57 pm to
quote:

The year they’re having this year should’ve been last year but they kicked the can a year by going w Arnett. Didn’t help their AD left the month before Leach died so the interim AD was the one stuck making the call.



On target
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
16135 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 8:58 pm to
quote:

They wanted him fired though, I know he passed and that is sad, but they were in the middle of arranging his exit.... then when he passes, his death becomes the excuse? I am sorry I do not buy that


What? That’s pure horse shite.
Posted by MSU44
Chatt
Member since Aug 2018
244 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 9:05 pm to
quote:

They went really cheap and it burned them.


Yeah if only we could’ve thrown an outrageous contract out there we might could’ve gotten a bite.

Maybe like a Jimbo type of hire…
Posted by GnashRebel
Member since May 2015
8812 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 9:25 pm to
Consider that it wasn’t that long ago this is the program that gave the world Chris Jones and Jeffrey Simmons.
Posted by Mr Sausage
Cat Spring, Texas
Member since Oct 2011
15444 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:02 pm to
quote:

Yeah if only we could’ve thrown an outrageous contract out there we might could’ve gotten a bite.


Would have been better than boiled peanuts and honey buns like you did for this hire.
Posted by Hornady7
Member since Oct 2022
435 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:14 pm to
Lot of misinformation here. boosters who hated Leach took control of the program after Leach died and no AD in place. they fired his coaching staff when a veteran team returned off 9-4 season. Oldest team in the sec. they scrapped the offense. They hired losers. In short they blew up their own program.


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