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Posted on 12/25/21 at 6:01 pm to cardswinagain
Surely it is helpful to curse while professing Jesus.
Posted on 12/25/21 at 6:04 pm to BC_t_AD
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Merry Christmas! Jesus died for our sins
PREACH.......AMEN AMEN AMEN
Posted on 12/25/21 at 6:06 pm to cardswinagain
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Not going to read this entire thread of posts because I am sure a number of them are from sad atheists who love to shite on God and religion.
Or fellow Abrahamic religions that Christians often like to use as a political prop. :shrug:
Posted on 12/25/21 at 6:09 pm to Hogfan13
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The fact that we have 4 eyewitness accounts that agree as much as they do (if you ever have multiple eyewitness accounts that all say the same exact thing, word for word, you'll know they've scripted it together FYI), is pretty amazing.
Ehhhhhhh
Posted on 12/25/21 at 6:24 pm to Prof
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Matthew, Mark, Luke and John? Most don't include John when searching for historical evidence because John has been understood as a symbolic gospel since the early days of the church. The primary theory is that Luke and Matthew draw upon Mark as a source*** whereas John draws on other source materials. One of those sources is likely the Gospel of Thomas which is considered a 'gnostic' Gospel but the parallels between Thomas and John are as bright and clear as the ones that Matthew, Mark, and Luke share amongst themselves.
The synoptic Gospels (aka Matthew, Luke, and John) tell a very different story from John. One of the best examples is that in the first three you have the Last Supper but in John, Jesus is described as being that supper (the lamb of God served up as a sacrifice for humanity). John repeats that imagery throughout and paints the Jesus movement as diverging more and more from other Jewish sects. It also describes conflicts a bit differently but let's just leave it at -- John is quite different.
***This is so-called Marcan Priority which is a well accepted theory but still a debated one.
At any rate, there's not even an accepted agreement on whether or not a single source or Q document exists for the synoptic Gospels, you're not going to find an accepted agreement or disagreement on something as broad as the events among all 4 even assuming that you narrowed it down to events they describe in common.
I have no idea on why you are lecturing me on basic Biblical scholarship. But you're wrong that the Gospel of Thomas is a source for John. The rest of your post is basically right. Did you misread my prior post? Did you think I was the one defending the historical accuracy of the Gospels? I was doing the opposite...
Posted on 12/25/21 at 7:04 pm to Notrub14
Wrong page
Posted on 12/25/21 at 7:31 pm to Hogfan13
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But as for the evidence - 2000 years is a long time. The fact that we have 4 eyewitness accounts that agree as much as they do (if you ever have multiple eyewitness accounts that all say the same exact thing, word for word, you'll know they've scripted it together FYI), is pretty amazing.
You know, unless they're just copying the same document.
Posted on 12/25/21 at 7:33 pm to BC_t_AD
Truth! No salvation without repentance. Not perfection because that’s what grace is for, but running from sin and not running TO sin is the way to go! Jesus loves you!
Posted on 12/25/21 at 7:54 pm to Cuthy
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"The people walking in darkness have seen a great light..."
Emmanuel, God with us. Jesus, God saves.
Look to the Light.
This ^^^ is the Truth….You’re either diligently seeking and working to walk in the Light or you have willfully chosen to embrace the darkness, and in doing so you assist the deceiver to steal the eternal souls of untold millions away from our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
I don’t recall the chapter and verse in the Bible but there’s a chilling warning from The Creator to any person who deceives another person in an attempt to turn them away from the Light.
Posted on 12/25/21 at 8:04 pm to mbogo
[quote]If you had evidence that Jesus was real and who the Bible claimed, what would you do with the knowledge?
If there was evidence for it, I'd believe. However, there is none, because it's made up.
I'd be a Muslim if there was evidence that what Mohammad said was true. But it's not, because he made it up.
If there was evidence for it, I'd believe. However, there is none, because it's made up.
I'd be a Muslim if there was evidence that what Mohammad said was true. But it's not, because he made it up.
Posted on 12/25/21 at 9:40 pm to PaulsBunions
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Technically he asked to be taken out of the game but God said no
Strong admin leadership in his moment of doubt got him through it. He suited up knowing the outcome.
Posted on 12/25/21 at 9:55 pm to whatkindanameiskirby
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If there was evidence for it, I'd believe. However, there is none, because it's made up.
The question was if you knew, so you wouldn't have to believe, the question assumes you already know. What would you do with that knowledge?
Posted on 12/25/21 at 10:09 pm to Che Boludo
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Strong admin leadership in his moment of doubt got him through it. He suited up knowing the outcome.
Sure, but he still asked to be taken out.
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