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re: McElroy showing off his Bama education

Posted on 4/4/26 at 11:53 pm to
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 4/4/26 at 11:53 pm to
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You can't fix stupid. I knew these photos from astronauts showing the earth in its round magnificence would unearth these idiotic flat earthers.


I don’t think many people question that we went to space and took lots of cool photos. Or that we landed stuff on the moon. There is lots of proof from tons of sources. People saw it with their own eyes.

It is the part about successfully landing on the moon, getting out to hop around a while, while transmitting live video of it back to earth, and then flying back home to Earth safely that makes some ask questions.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
69458 posts
Posted on 4/4/26 at 11:54 pm to
I agree with captdecline in that you can't believe everything the government tells you, but you also have to utilize some amount of critical thinking when attempting to reach an opinion.

There are a lot of people who take a contrarian stance on nearly everything, simply because it gives them a feeling of superiority as they feel like they "know" something the average person, doesn't. The Internet has given those folks a voice, and sometimes, they just seem to be trying to "out-crazy" one another. Especially when they profit from attention and "clicks".

My biggest problem with the Moon landing deniers is that there was never really anything to "gain" by believing it didn't happen, other than attention and/or the "superior contrarian's" mentality.

This post was edited on 4/4/26 at 11:59 pm
Posted by Vokietaitis Fever
Member since Mar 2026
32 posts
Posted on 4/5/26 at 12:16 am to
Yeah, I get the skepticism to some extent too. But deniers end up not believing it for reasons that are crazier than accepting that it just happened.
Posted by TheTideMustRoll
Birmingham, AL
Member since Dec 2009
10607 posts
Posted on 4/5/26 at 12:19 am to
Lump McElroy in with the rest of the moon landing denier retards, then. fricking idiots. This country achieved the most amazing, incredible thing that humanity has ever accomplished, and some morons want to deny it because it makes them feel smart and special to believe something that right-thinking people dismiss as the obvious claptrap that it is. I have absolutely zero respect for those who swallow such utter pabulum.

For those who say, "no other nation has ever confirmed the existence of the landing sites," educate yourselves. Yes they have. Multiple countries have stated that they have observed the landing sites, either by telescope or by probe.
Posted by 6columns
Member since Jun 2024
2528 posts
Posted on 4/5/26 at 12:55 am to
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Lump McElroy in with the rest of the moon landing denier retards, then. fricking idiots. This country achieved the most amazing, incredible thing that humanity has ever accomplished, and some morons want to deny it because it makes them feel smart and special to believe something that right-thinking people dismiss as the obvious claptrap that it is. I have absolutely zero respect for those who swallow such utter pabulum.

For those who say, "no other nation has ever confirmed the existence of the landing sites," educate yourselves. Yes they have. Multiple countries have stated that they have observed the landing sites, either by telescope or by probe.


People believing in this outlandish conspiracy theory cannot explain how nobody among the thousands involved in the moon landings has ever come over to their side. So they end up being the sheep they so detest. Irony is beyond them.
This post was edited on 4/5/26 at 12:56 am
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
13479 posts
Posted on 4/5/26 at 1:31 am to
So because it seemed so hard to do, that's reason to question it. It's just silly. There is no real evidence to question it. And if the Soviets knew it was fake and had proof, they sure waited around a long time before using it for blackmail. Too long as it turns out.
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
13479 posts
Posted on 4/5/26 at 1:44 am to
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I remember people getting banned and suspended on social media for spreading misinformation during covid. Anything that didn’t align perfectly was labeled misinformation. And then we came to find out that the evil misinformation was no more incorrect or harmful than much of the official information we were shoveled.

Anytime anyone uses “misinformation” my radar goes off. That is another word, like conspiracy theory, that the media promotes. Censoring “misinformation” is great as long as you are the one making the decisions on what and who is blocked.


Covid was a new virus that scientists and doctors were trying to piece together on the fly. It would've been absolutely stupid for them to take the approach of "We'll wait and see how dangerous it is before deciding exactly what to do" considering how contagious it was. In South Korea, it broke out in a one city because some stupid mega church decided they wouldn't obey the govt. guidelines. The Koreans were ready for it as SARS (a much more dangerous, but less contagious virus) had given them a scare before. They were set up to do contact tracing. As a whole, the people over here followed the guidelines and it was kept under control until it mutated to where you could get sick and it was no more dangerous than the flu. When that happened, the govt. let it spread like wild and had no problems with overcrowded hospitals, over worked staff, sick medical staff, etc. Biggest reason is that people didn't beeyotch and complain all the time. Just followed the rules. They didn't even shut stuff down. Just required you wear a mask unless you were at an eating establishment and set a limit on how many could sit at a table together. That was it. Mainly worked because they had a great plan and the public followed it. Over here, they didn't trust their government in the opposite direction. Believed the govt. was rushing to open things back up completely to save the economy.
With a contagious virus, you can't have 80% willing to do what it takes and 20% worried that their right to not wear a mask while shopping for groceries is overreach. That's too many violating protocol and it doesn't matter what the other 80% are gonna do. Everyone's gonna get it.

Covid is one of the craziest things I've ever seen. I know nurses who deny the seriousness of it while they were working crazy shifts and had the halls of their hospital stacked out the wazzoo. My mother was in her late 70's. We could hardly wake her up one morning. she had to go to the hospital by ambulance, and she was back home by noon. No way that happens if things are normal. I know plenty of people that were sent home with temps over 104 and many who fainted, went to hospital by ambulance and sent home in hours. The scary part is when something just as contagious but far more deadly breaks out, many will do the same thing, watch their children die and then blame the govt. saying that because they overreached the last time you couldn't trust them the next time.

Reality is that we don't know the full effects of Covid. But it'd be stupid to not believe that a lot of people died that didn't even have it because they couldn't get the medical care they normally would have.
This post was edited on 4/5/26 at 2:00 am
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
22783 posts
Posted on 4/5/26 at 7:45 am to
Holy shite. You are arguing that the reason covid was as bad as it was in part was because some people didn’t wear masks. That is amazing. At this point with what we know, I can not fathom how anyone can defend lockdowns, business closures, masking and mandatory vaccines. Yet here you are doing just that. Wow.
Posted by Gunga Din
Oklahoma
Member since Jul 2020
3386 posts
Posted on 4/5/26 at 8:09 am to
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Neal Armstrong’s first step on the moon was broadcast from a camera on the surface of the moon. The only other person on the moon at the time was Buzz Aldrin up in the lunar module.



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The camera was mounted on the LM.



You'd think that if they were going to "fake" a moon landing... they'd have sense enough to avoid putting a camera on the surface of the fake moon.
This post was edited on 4/5/26 at 8:11 am
Posted by thatthang
Member since Jan 2012
8202 posts
Posted on 4/5/26 at 8:49 am to
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Without looking it up do you know what year color televisions and microwaves were invented? What about when they became widespread in homes? Greg McElroy was a Rhodes Scholar finalist. You can hate on Greg McElroy for several things. But being stupid is not one of them. And for the record, more and more people believe we didn’t actually land on the moon. We have seen how the government will straight lie to people on a global scale. We saw the two unmanned attempts to land on the moon earlier this year both fail - despite being exponentially more technically advanced than we were in 1969. No one has actually been able to see any of the discarded lunar landers from the Apollo program with a telescope, despite the fact we now have telescopes 100x more sensitive and advanced than the Hubble Space Telescope. We can see over 13 billion light years away. But we can’t see any of the junk we left on the moon. Strange.


This being your hill to die on is very on brand for you.
Posted by Dawgs9
Where ever I am
Member since Sep 2012
3364 posts
Posted on 4/5/26 at 9:48 am to
All that stuff was pushed over into a hole on the moon, no way you can see it down there
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
19788 posts
Posted on 4/5/26 at 10:11 am to
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It doesn’t make him dumb to doubt the moon landings.


It makes him dumb about this topic, that’s for sure.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
22783 posts
Posted on 4/5/26 at 10:26 am to
Everyone has dogged piled on McElroy for getting the details wrong on why he doesn’t believe men landed on the moon. We should do the same for those who absolutely believe we did.

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Multiple countries have stated that they have observed the landing sites, either by telescope or by probe


No one has ever observed the actual junk we left behind by telescope. If we are going to crucify McElroy for getting the details of why he believes what he does, we should apply the same standards to everyone.

They have taken photos from probes that show space junk and landing sites. But again, I don’t think anyone here is arguing we didn’t land probes on the moon.

The surface of the moon is a veritable junkyard of space equipment. Makes you wonder why everyone left so much expensive technology behind since we have the ability to take off from the moon and return safely to Earth.


Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
22783 posts
Posted on 4/5/26 at 10:42 am to
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This being your hill to die on is very on brand for you.


The hill being that I don’t believe Greg McElroy is stupid? Or the hill being that I admit I don’t know for certain what happened? Or the hill being that I admit I don’t believe everything the government tells me just because they said it? Or the hill being that the last two U.S. lunar landing missions, unmanned landers, both failed?

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Yes, the most recent U.S. uncrewed lunar landing attempts, specifically the Intuitive Machines' Athena lander mission in March 2025 and the Peregrine lander in January 2024, failed to meet all objectives. The Athena lander landed on its side, unable to fully charge its batteries, while Peregrine suffered a propulsion leak and did not reach the moon


I don’t know what hill you are referring to, but I will gladly die on any of those hills.

I would like to talk to you about something else when you have time, an incredible time share opportunity.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
22783 posts
Posted on 4/5/26 at 11:19 am to
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People believing in this outlandish conspiracy theory cannot explain how nobody among the thousands involved in the moon landings has ever come over to their side. So they end up being the sheep they so detest. Irony is beyond them.


The Tuskegee Experiment lasted for 40 years and involved thousands - 600 initial test subjects, and over the years thousands of medical professionals, politicians and bureaucrats. It wasn’t some hidden away secret, for much of it’s existence it was under the umbrella of the CDC. It was supported by the AMA as late as 1966.

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In 1966, Peter Buxtun, a PHS venereal-disease investigator in San Francisco, sent a letter to the national director of the Division of Venereal Diseases expressing his concerns about the ethics and morality of the extended U.S. Public Health Service Syphilis Study at Tuskegee. The CDC, which by then controlled the study, reaffirmed the need to continue the study until completion; i.e. until all subjects had died and been autopsied. To bolster its position, the CDC received unequivocal support for the continuation of the study, both from local chapters of the National Medical Association (representing African-American physicians) and the American Medical Association (AMA).


It took a 29 year old whistle blower going to the press to bring it to light. It wasn’t until it ended up on the front page of the New York Times that people really questioned it.

The true nature of the Tuskegee Experiment was kept under wraps for 40 years. It involved thousands too, and they did a fine job keeping it under wraps until a 29 year old venereal disease specialist had a crisis of conscience.

The Tuskegee Experiment was a black eye for the government that killed hundreds. Not something to be proud of like landing on the moon.

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explain how nobody among the thousands involved


For 40 years thousands involved in the Tuskegee Experiment said nothing. Explain that.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
31076 posts
Posted on 4/5/26 at 12:29 pm to
Yep.
Those Rhodes Scholarship finalists are all a bunch of dumbasses.
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
13479 posts
Posted on 4/5/26 at 4:42 pm to
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Holy shite. You are arguing that the reason covid was as bad as it was in part was because some people didn’t wear masks. That is amazing. At this point with what we know, I can not fathom how anyone can defend lockdowns, business closures, masking and mandatory vaccines. Yet here you are doing just that. Wow.


No, not entirely. I'm just saying protocols all over were ignored. And any scientist will tell you that with contagious diseases it has to be a communal effort to stop spread. Main reason it was so bad in the US is Obama and Bush didn't ramp up preparation for it in their presidencies and Trump ignored it for months in his.

Again, explain why the death rate in S. Korea was so low when it broke out here weeks before there was ever any rapid spread in the US? I still haven't heard the conspirators explain that one in any rational way.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
69458 posts
Posted on 4/5/26 at 5:24 pm to
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Yep.
Those Rhodes Scholarship finalists are all a bunch of dumbasses.

IIRC, Rachel Maddow and Bill Clinton were Rhodes finalists.

Sure you want to hitch your horse to that wagon?
Posted by TheScogg
Member since Sep 2025
593 posts
Posted on 4/5/26 at 5:30 pm to
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Reality is that we don't know the full effects of Covid.


Dumbest shite I've seen today. Its Pneumonia. A man made (us, we paid for it) Pneumonia. Also known as the Flu.

We do know the full effects. It, like every other virus, either tones its arse down as to spread ... or it goes full Spanish Flu and burns itself out.

The fact is ... people keep pretending we DON'T know exactly how this works. Pretending we don't know how basic virology works. Like we all somehow forgot everything from Currie on.

bullshite.
Posted by TouchdownTony
Central Alabama
Member since Apr 2016
10677 posts
Posted on 4/5/26 at 6:11 pm to
Gmac was born in L.A. not surprised by this.
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