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Matt Harmon's top 25 wrs coming out of college entering the draft the last four classes...
Posted on 4/18/24 at 12:50 pm
Posted on 4/18/24 at 12:50 pm
Tier 1
1. Marvin Harrison Jr.
2. Ja'Marr Chase
3. Rome Odunze
4. Chris Olave
5. Devonta Smith
6. Drake London
7. Garrett Wilson
8. Malik Nabers
Tier 2
9. Jayden Waddle
10. Jaxon Smith-Njigba
11. Rashod Bateman
12. Jermaine Burton
13. Brian Thomas Jr.
14. Jameson WIlliams
15. Elijah Moore
16. Jahan Dotson
Tier 3
17. Zay Flowers
18. Rickey Pearsall
19. Ladd McConkey
20. Jordan Addison
21. AD Mitchell
22. Treylon Burks
23. Quentin Johnston
24. Josh Downs
25. George Pickens
These are how he had them graded coming out of college. He's not saying MHJ is better than Chase now. He's saying he has him graded better than Chase when both were coming out.
I'll give you some his thoughts. Some of this is from memory. Obviously some of these have been misses.
He did say Treylon Burks should be used as a big slot and if Tennessee was gonna put him outside, he'd need years to develop to be good enough to be an X WR. Tennessee has tried to play him at X and that may be why he's been a disappointment, along with his health issues. He said similar things about Quentin Johnston and the Chargers have tried to play him outside and that also hasn't worked.
He really likes Nabers and said that if anyone wanted to say he should be higher than MH Jr. or Odunze in this class, it wouldn't be worth arguing. Said that he has him third because he's not as good at route running as those two, but he is good at it and if he improves could have the highest ceiling as he's a better tackle breaker than those two.
Really, really high on Pearsall. Loves that guy and said he could have been better if the QB play had been better.
Puka Nacua was his no. 1 sleeper WR last year in fantasy rookie drafts. I remember him calling him out several times last spring but he didn't know how to pronounce his name.
1. Marvin Harrison Jr.
2. Ja'Marr Chase
3. Rome Odunze
4. Chris Olave
5. Devonta Smith
6. Drake London
7. Garrett Wilson
8. Malik Nabers
Tier 2
9. Jayden Waddle
10. Jaxon Smith-Njigba
11. Rashod Bateman
12. Jermaine Burton
13. Brian Thomas Jr.
14. Jameson WIlliams
15. Elijah Moore
16. Jahan Dotson
Tier 3
17. Zay Flowers
18. Rickey Pearsall
19. Ladd McConkey
20. Jordan Addison
21. AD Mitchell
22. Treylon Burks
23. Quentin Johnston
24. Josh Downs
25. George Pickens
These are how he had them graded coming out of college. He's not saying MHJ is better than Chase now. He's saying he has him graded better than Chase when both were coming out.
I'll give you some his thoughts. Some of this is from memory. Obviously some of these have been misses.
He did say Treylon Burks should be used as a big slot and if Tennessee was gonna put him outside, he'd need years to develop to be good enough to be an X WR. Tennessee has tried to play him at X and that may be why he's been a disappointment, along with his health issues. He said similar things about Quentin Johnston and the Chargers have tried to play him outside and that also hasn't worked.
He really likes Nabers and said that if anyone wanted to say he should be higher than MH Jr. or Odunze in this class, it wouldn't be worth arguing. Said that he has him third because he's not as good at route running as those two, but he is good at it and if he improves could have the highest ceiling as he's a better tackle breaker than those two.
Really, really high on Pearsall. Loves that guy and said he could have been better if the QB play had been better.
Puka Nacua was his no. 1 sleeper WR last year in fantasy rookie drafts. I remember him calling him out several times last spring but he didn't know how to pronounce his name.
This post was edited on 4/18/24 at 1:29 pm
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Posted on 4/18/24 at 1:04 pm to koreandawg
Whether it be coming out of High School or out of College:
The absolute lack of respect for Justin Jefferson as a prospect is absolutely astonishing
. That dude has to play with the biggest fricking chip on his shoulder imaginable.
The absolute lack of respect for Justin Jefferson as a prospect is absolutely astonishing
. That dude has to play with the biggest fricking chip on his shoulder imaginable. Posted on 4/18/24 at 1:10 pm to Tarpon08
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The absolute lack of respect for Justin Jefferson as a prospect is absolutely astonishing . That dude has to play with the biggest fricking chip on his shoulder imaginable.
Came out the year before this analysis I think.
Posted on 4/18/24 at 1:16 pm to CatfishJohn
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Came out the year before this analysis I think.
I think you're right
However I STAND BY MY STATEMENT!!!!
Posted on 4/18/24 at 1:21 pm to koreandawg
Still not buying the MHJ hype.
Posted on 4/18/24 at 1:27 pm to Tarpon08
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Whether it be coming out of High School or out of College:
The absolute lack of respect for Justin Jefferson as a prospect is absolutely astonishing . That dude has to play with the biggest fricking chip on his shoulder imaginable.
Jefferson is not ranked here. He was in the 2020 class. These are rankings for classes 2021-2024. He was high on Jefferson and CeeDee Lamb.
Posted on 4/18/24 at 1:31 pm to LSU Patrick
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Still not buying the MHJ hype.
There is so much good stuff in his profile that make him about as can't miss as you can get.
This guy is strictly film.
But analytically, the guy had not just good, but humongous production with two different QBs and one of them wasn't even good. Everyone fell off last year due to the QB play except MHJ. He's got the highest floor of any player in this draft.
Posted on 4/18/24 at 1:37 pm to koreandawg
None of that sold me.
Posted on 4/18/24 at 1:45 pm to koreandawg
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Marvin Harrison Jr.
If his name was Marvin Jones he’d be third tier. Nepotism to its finest
Posted on 4/18/24 at 2:10 pm to koreandawg
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He's got the highest floor of any player in this draft.
Brock Bowers is, at worst, a very good starting TE in the league. Obviously not the impact at TE as a top WR, but he’s got a super high floor to me.
Posted on 4/18/24 at 2:37 pm to Draco Malfoy
U think nfl gms - whose jobs are on the line more or less w each draft - care what his last fukin name is?
They’re trying to pick the best player. MHJR going high essentially proves they view him as a “Marvin Jones.”
They’re trying to pick the best player. MHJR going high essentially proves they view him as a “Marvin Jones.”
This post was edited on 4/18/24 at 2:38 pm
Posted on 4/18/24 at 2:42 pm to koreandawg
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These are how he had them graded coming out of college. He's not saying MHJ is better than Chase now. He's saying he has him graded better than Chase when both were coming out.
Regardless of his logic, this both puts a LOT on Harrison AND is setting up Harmon for people to call him an idiot if Harrison doesn't deliver.
Posted on 4/18/24 at 2:45 pm to LSU Patrick
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None of that sold me.
So what exactly is it that has you not sold?
Posted on 4/18/24 at 2:46 pm to koreandawg
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These are how he had them graded coming out of college. He's not saying MHJ is better than Chase now. He's saying he has him graded better than Chase when both were coming out.
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He really likes Nabers and said that if anyone wanted to say he should be higher than MH Jr. or Odunze in this class, it wouldn't be worth arguing. Said that he has him third because he's not as good at route running as those two, but he is good at it and if he improves could have the highest ceiling as he's a better tackle breaker than those two.
It really is hard to argue who is the top wr in this class.
Its hard to think that #13 on his list could "surprise" people, but I think whoever drafts BTJ is getting their moneys worth.
Posted on 4/18/24 at 2:54 pm to LSU Patrick
Just watching him play sold me. He's going to be great.
Posted on 4/18/24 at 3:40 pm to koreandawg
Justin Jefferson is head and soldiers above Devonta Smith.
Posted on 4/18/24 at 6:36 pm to koreandawg
Horrible list
Posted on 4/18/24 at 6:39 pm to koreandawg
Olave too high. He's a WR2 at best.
Posted on 4/18/24 at 6:43 pm to koreandawg
A little surprised Justin Jefferson wasn’t in there.
Posted on 4/18/24 at 6:54 pm to koreandawg
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6. Drake London
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