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Posted on 8/10/20 at 4:57 pm
Posted on 8/10/20 at 4:57 pm
Was on Finebaum and he stated every Medical Advisor recommended not playing football this year. Finebaum failed to ask a follow up question on if those same advisors recommended on-campus attendance for students at these same schools. Same story coming out of the Big 10. How is it safe for students to be on campus and tested once at the beginning of a Semester than student athletes being tested at least weekly ?
This is either political or hypocritical.
This is either political or hypocritical.
Posted on 8/10/20 at 4:58 pm to Irons Puppet
I would guess for the MAC and MWC, it has more to do with money and they’re just trying not to admit that. Once the money games were gone, all those conferences were dead in the water.
This post was edited on 8/10/20 at 4:59 pm
Posted on 8/10/20 at 4:59 pm to Irons Puppet
The "if we can't play football, then why are we having school" argument seems to be gaining traction today.
Posted on 8/10/20 at 4:59 pm to Irons Puppet
The experts of China Virus should be busy being experts and solving the case instead of putting input into college football.
Or do they not actually know anything about the China Virus and are just making it up?
Or do they not actually know anything about the China Virus and are just making it up?
Posted on 8/10/20 at 5:03 pm to Irons Puppet
Fauci, King of the medical advisors, said a couple of days ago that even after a vaccine we should keep wearing masks, social distancing, and not engaging in large indoor gatherings.
Medical advisors are coming from a place of pure safety. If an activity makes covid more likely to occur then it’s “unsafe.” That’s an absurd standard to meet in real life.
The medical advisors don’t factor in the drastic negative effects no football has on players, coaches, schools, communities, fans, and society writ large. If the MAC administrators just listened to medical advisors tell them it wasn’t perfectly safe to play football...they should all be fired for not doing their jobs.
Medical advisors are coming from a place of pure safety. If an activity makes covid more likely to occur then it’s “unsafe.” That’s an absurd standard to meet in real life.
The medical advisors don’t factor in the drastic negative effects no football has on players, coaches, schools, communities, fans, and society writ large. If the MAC administrators just listened to medical advisors tell them it wasn’t perfectly safe to play football...they should all be fired for not doing their jobs.
This post was edited on 8/11/20 at 8:42 am
Posted on 8/10/20 at 5:17 pm to paperwasp
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The "if we can't play football, then why are we having school" argument seems to be gaining traction today.
I'm not pushing either, but as a parent of a college student, I am confused about these Presidents concerns over Athletes over the overall student body. All of a sudden they are concerned about inflammation of the heart with Athletes, what makes the rest of the student body immune to these issues ?
Posted on 8/10/20 at 5:21 pm to Irons Puppet
They just want tuition and grant checks to clear the bank so they can keep their phonibologne jobs now that undergraduate school has become irrelevant with online learning.
Posted on 8/10/20 at 6:31 pm to lewis and herschel
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They just want tuition and grant checks to clear the bank so they can keep their phonibologne jobs now that undergraduate school has become irrelevant with online learning.
Every one of them need to answer the question if they think it is safe to pay football ? Is it safe to have students on campus ? If there is a different answer to these two questions, please explain.
Posted on 8/10/20 at 6:39 pm to Irons Puppet
This is probably what he was referring to?
Heart condition linked with COVID-19 fuels Power 5 concern about season's viability
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A rare heart condition that could be linked with the coronavirus is fueling concern among Power 5 conference administrators about the viability of college sports this fall.
Myocarditis, inflammation of the heart muscle, has been found in at least five Big Ten Conference athletes and among several other athletes in other conferences, according to two sources with knowledge of athletes' medical care.
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The condition is usually caused by a viral infection, including those that cause the common cold, H1N1 influenza or mononucleosis. Left undiagnosed and untreated, it can cause heart damage and sudden cardiac arrest, which can be fatal. It is a rare condition, but the COVID-19 virus has been linked with myocarditis with a higher frequency than other viruses, based on limited studies and anecdotal evidence since the start of the pandemic.
The concern has "made the bar higher" for returning to fall sports, said Dr. Jonathan Drezner, director of the University of Washington Medicine Center for Sports Cardiology and a sports medicine physician who advises the NCAA on cardiac issues, "and it could be we don't get there."
Conference officials and athletic directors told ESPN that the uncertainty about the long-term effects of myocarditis has been discussed in meetings of presidents and chancellors, commissioners and athletics directors, and health advisory board members from the Big Ten, Pac-12 and other conferences around the country. Last week, college administrators saw a Facebook post from Debbie Rucker, mother of Indiana offensive lineman Brady Feeney, who wrote that her son was dealing with potential heart problems after battling COVID-19.
The Mid-American Conference, after receiving medical reports about myocarditis and other problems associated with the coronavirus, was the first FBS conference to postpone fall sports on Saturday.
"What we don't know was really haunting us, and that's why we came to our final decision," Northern Illinois athletics director Sean Frazier said. "That's part of the data that our presidents used. This mom gave us a play-by-play. That stuff is extremely scary."
Dr. John MacKnight, the head primary care team physician at the University of Virginia, said that while questions about COVID-19 testing availability, turnaround time for results, and the impact of a possible community surge of cases have all been factors in deciding to return to competition, the long-term cardiac concerns for athletes may be the tipping point.
Heart condition linked with COVID-19 fuels Power 5 concern about season's viability
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Growing skepticism surrounding fall college football season (1:30)
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3:55 PM CT
Paula LavigneMark Schlabach
A rare heart condition that could be linked with the coronavirus is fueling concern among Power 5 conference administrators about the viability of college sports this fall.
Myocarditis, inflammation of the heart muscle, has been found in at least five Big Ten Conference athletes and among several other athletes in other conferences, according to two sources with knowledge of athletes' medical care.
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The condition is usually caused by a viral infection, including those that cause the common cold, H1N1 influenza or mononucleosis. Left undiagnosed and untreated, it can cause heart damage and sudden cardiac arrest, which can be fatal. It is a rare condition, but the COVID-19 virus has been linked with myocarditis with a higher frequency than other viruses, based on limited studies and anecdotal evidence since the start of the pandemic.
The concern has "made the bar higher" for returning to fall sports, said Dr. Jonathan Drezner, director of the University of Washington Medicine Center for Sports Cardiology and a sports medicine physician who advises the NCAA on cardiac issues, "and it could be we don't get there."
Conference officials and athletic directors told ESPN that the uncertainty about the long-term effects of myocarditis has been discussed in meetings of presidents and chancellors, commissioners and athletics directors, and health advisory board members from the Big Ten, Pac-12 and other conferences around the country. Last week, college administrators saw a Facebook post from Debbie Rucker, mother of Indiana offensive lineman Brady Feeney, who wrote that her son was dealing with potential heart problems after battling COVID-19.
The Mid-American Conference, after receiving medical reports about myocarditis and other problems associated with the coronavirus, was the first FBS conference to postpone fall sports on Saturday.
"What we don't know was really haunting us, and that's why we came to our final decision," Northern Illinois athletics director Sean Frazier said. "That's part of the data that our presidents used. This mom gave us a play-by-play. That stuff is extremely scary."
Dr. John MacKnight, the head primary care team physician at the University of Virginia, said that while questions about COVID-19 testing availability, turnaround time for results, and the impact of a possible community surge of cases have all been factors in deciding to return to competition, the long-term cardiac concerns for athletes may be the tipping point.
Posted on 8/10/20 at 6:47 pm to gladchiefisgone
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This is probably what he was referring to?
Heart condition linked with COVID-19 fuels Power 5 concern about season's viability
play
Growing skepticism surrounding fall college football season (1:30)
Facebook Messenger
3:55 PM CT
Paula LavigneMark Schlabach
A rare heart condition that could be linked with the coronavirus is fueling concern among Power 5 conference administrators about the viability of college sports this fall.
Myocarditis, inflammation of the heart muscle, has been found in at least five Big Ten Conference athletes and among several other athletes in other conferences, according to two sources with knowledge of athletes' medical care.
ADVERTISEMENT
The condition is usually caused by a viral infection, including those that cause the common cold, H1N1 influenza or mononucleosis. Left undiagnosed and untreated, it can cause heart damage and sudden cardiac arrest, which can be fatal. It is a rare condition, but the COVID-19 virus has been linked with myocarditis with a higher frequency than other viruses, based on limited studies and anecdotal evidence since the start of the pandemic.
The concern has "made the bar higher" for returning to fall sports, said Dr. Jonathan Drezner, director of the University of Washington Medicine Center for Sports Cardiology and a sports medicine physician who advises the NCAA on cardiac issues, "and it could be we don't get there."
Conference officials and athletic directors told ESPN that the uncertainty about the long-term effects of myocarditis has been discussed in meetings of presidents and chancellors, commissioners and athletics directors, and health advisory board members from the Big Ten, Pac-12 and other conferences around the country. Last week, college administrators saw a Facebook post from Debbie Rucker, mother of Indiana offensive lineman Brady Feeney, who wrote that her son was dealing with potential heart problems after battling COVID-19.
The Mid-American Conference, after receiving medical reports about myocarditis and other problems associated with the coronavirus, was the first FBS conference to postpone fall sports on Saturday.
"What we don't know was really haunting us, and that's why we came to our final decision," Northern Illinois athletics director Sean Frazier said. "That's part of the data that our presidents used. This mom gave us a play-by-play. That stuff is extremely scary."
Dr. John MacKnight, the head primary care team physician at the University of Virginia, said that while questions about COVID-19 testing availability, turnaround time for results, and the impact of a possible community surge of cases have all been factors in deciding to return to competition, the long-term cardiac concerns for athletes may be the tipping point.
But what makes playing football anymore dangerous to the student than attending class ? At least Athletes will be tested frequently to see if they have the virus, average students will get one test.
Posted on 8/10/20 at 6:53 pm to gladchiefisgone
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could be linked with the coronavirus
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The condition is usually caused by a viral infection, including those that cause the common cold, H1N1 influenza or mononucleosis
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Left undiagnosed and untreated
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based on limited studies and anecdotal evidence
Is now gospel
Posted on 8/10/20 at 6:57 pm to Irons Puppet
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I'm not pushing either, but as a parent of a college student, I am confused about these Presidents concerns over Athletes over the overall student body. All of a sudden they are concerned about inflammation of the heart with Athletes, what makes the rest of the student body immune to these issues ?
I have said it before and I will say it again.........lawsuits.
Students aren't forced to be there. Athletes, in their lawsuits, will say they felt pressured to compete even though health experts said there could be long term health issues with this virus.
Posted on 8/10/20 at 6:59 pm to gladchiefisgone
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A rare heart condition that could be linked with the coronavirus is fueling concern among Power 5 conference administrators about the viability of college sports this fall.
Everything is linked to Covid 19.
Everything.
There’s a study. Promise.
Posted on 8/10/20 at 7:02 pm to Irons Puppet
Once all the money is collected for school, they gonna cancel it in person as well
Posted on 8/10/20 at 7:07 pm to MrAUTigers
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Athletes, in their lawsuits, will say they felt pressured to compete even though health experts said there could be long term health issues with this virus.
well haven't they already been told they can opt out for the season and keep their scholarship and eligibility?
Posted on 8/10/20 at 7:21 pm to LSURulzSEC
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well haven't they already been told they can opt out for the season and keep their scholarship and eligibility?
Do you think that would matter? Some dumbass spilled hot coffee in her lap. She sued McDonald's because it was "too hot". She won almost $3M.
ETA health experts said from the very start this was a very dangerous virus. They have been saying recently that there could be long term health problems caused by this.
This post was edited on 8/10/20 at 7:23 pm
Posted on 8/10/20 at 7:41 pm to Irons Puppet
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The condition is usually caused by a viral infection, including those that cause the common cold, H1N1 influenza or mononucleosis.
Is there any reason to think it is more common with Covid vs other viruses?
Posted on 8/10/20 at 7:49 pm to Irons Puppet
I think the reason that the SEC feels comfortable with their protocols and barriers is because they've put their money to work.
That's money that the MAC and MWC just don't have. If they can't afford the level of testing and other things the SEC can, they truly may feel less safe.
That doesn't fly for the other P5 leagues, though.
That's money that the MAC and MWC just don't have. If they can't afford the level of testing and other things the SEC can, they truly may feel less safe.
That doesn't fly for the other P5 leagues, though.
Posted on 8/10/20 at 7:51 pm to SummerOfGeorge
The MAC and MWC were pretty much screwed the second OOC games were eliminated.
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