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Posted on 8/10/20 at 4:57 pm
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
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Posted on 8/10/20 at 4:57 pm
Was on Finebaum and he stated every Medical Advisor recommended not playing football this year. Finebaum failed to ask a follow up question on if those same advisors recommended on-campus attendance for students at these same schools. Same story coming out of the Big 10. How is it safe for students to be on campus and tested once at the beginning of a Semester than student athletes being tested at least weekly ?
This is either political or hypocritical.
Posted by TheCheshireHog
Cashew Chicken Country
Member since Oct 2010
40856 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 4:58 pm to
I would guess for the MAC and MWC, it has more to do with money and they’re just trying not to admit that. Once the money games were gone, all those conferences were dead in the water.
This post was edited on 8/10/20 at 4:59 pm
Posted by paperwasp
11x HRV tRant Poster of the Week
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23009 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 4:59 pm to
The "if we can't play football, then why are we having school" argument seems to be gaining traction today.
Posted by YF12
Ottobaan
Member since Nov 2019
4451 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 4:59 pm to
The experts of China Virus should be busy being experts and solving the case instead of putting input into college football.

Or do they not actually know anything about the China Virus and are just making it up?
Posted by cardswinagain
Member since Jun 2013
11870 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 5:01 pm to
Posted by tigerfan88
Member since Jan 2008
8181 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 5:03 pm to
Fauci, King of the medical advisors, said a couple of days ago that even after a vaccine we should keep wearing masks, social distancing, and not engaging in large indoor gatherings.

Medical advisors are coming from a place of pure safety. If an activity makes covid more likely to occur then it’s “unsafe.” That’s an absurd standard to meet in real life.

The medical advisors don’t factor in the drastic negative effects no football has on players, coaches, schools, communities, fans, and society writ large. If the MAC administrators just listened to medical advisors tell them it wasn’t perfectly safe to play football...they should all be fired for not doing their jobs.
This post was edited on 8/11/20 at 8:42 am
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 5:17 pm to
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The "if we can't play football, then why are we having school" argument seems to be gaining traction today.



I'm not pushing either, but as a parent of a college student, I am confused about these Presidents concerns over Athletes over the overall student body. All of a sudden they are concerned about inflammation of the heart with Athletes, what makes the rest of the student body immune to these issues ?
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
11363 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 5:21 pm to
They just want tuition and grant checks to clear the bank so they can keep their phonibologne jobs now that undergraduate school has become irrelevant with online learning.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 6:31 pm to
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They just want tuition and grant checks to clear the bank so they can keep their phonibologne jobs now that undergraduate school has become irrelevant with online learning.



Every one of them need to answer the question if they think it is safe to pay football ? Is it safe to have students on campus ? If there is a different answer to these two questions, please explain.
Posted by gladchiefisgone
Member since Sep 2010
1793 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 6:39 pm to
This is probably what he was referring to?

Heart condition linked with COVID-19 fuels Power 5 concern about season's viability
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A rare heart condition that could be linked with the coronavirus is fueling concern among Power 5 conference administrators about the viability of college sports this fall.

Myocarditis, inflammation of the heart muscle, has been found in at least five Big Ten Conference athletes and among several other athletes in other conferences, according to two sources with knowledge of athletes' medical care.

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The condition is usually caused by a viral infection, including those that cause the common cold, H1N1 influenza or mononucleosis. Left undiagnosed and untreated, it can cause heart damage and sudden cardiac arrest, which can be fatal. It is a rare condition, but the COVID-19 virus has been linked with myocarditis with a higher frequency than other viruses, based on limited studies and anecdotal evidence since the start of the pandemic.

The concern has "made the bar higher" for returning to fall sports, said Dr. Jonathan Drezner, director of the University of Washington Medicine Center for Sports Cardiology and a sports medicine physician who advises the NCAA on cardiac issues, "and it could be we don't get there."

Conference officials and athletic directors told ESPN that the uncertainty about the long-term effects of myocarditis has been discussed in meetings of presidents and chancellors, commissioners and athletics directors, and health advisory board members from the Big Ten, Pac-12 and other conferences around the country. Last week, college administrators saw a Facebook post from Debbie Rucker, mother of Indiana offensive lineman Brady Feeney, who wrote that her son was dealing with potential heart problems after battling COVID-19.

The Mid-American Conference, after receiving medical reports about myocarditis and other problems associated with the coronavirus, was the first FBS conference to postpone fall sports on Saturday.

"What we don't know was really haunting us, and that's why we came to our final decision," Northern Illinois athletics director Sean Frazier said. "That's part of the data that our presidents used. This mom gave us a play-by-play. That stuff is extremely scary."

Dr. John MacKnight, the head primary care team physician at the University of Virginia, said that while questions about COVID-19 testing availability, turnaround time for results, and the impact of a possible community surge of cases have all been factors in deciding to return to competition, the long-term cardiac concerns for athletes may be the tipping point.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 6:47 pm to
quote:

This is probably what he was referring to?

Heart condition linked with COVID-19 fuels Power 5 concern about season's viability
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Growing skepticism surrounding fall college football season (1:30)
Facebook
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3:55 PM CT
Paula LavigneMark Schlabach
A rare heart condition that could be linked with the coronavirus is fueling concern among Power 5 conference administrators about the viability of college sports this fall.

Myocarditis, inflammation of the heart muscle, has been found in at least five Big Ten Conference athletes and among several other athletes in other conferences, according to two sources with knowledge of athletes' medical care.

ADVERTISEMENT

The condition is usually caused by a viral infection, including those that cause the common cold, H1N1 influenza or mononucleosis. Left undiagnosed and untreated, it can cause heart damage and sudden cardiac arrest, which can be fatal. It is a rare condition, but the COVID-19 virus has been linked with myocarditis with a higher frequency than other viruses, based on limited studies and anecdotal evidence since the start of the pandemic.

The concern has "made the bar higher" for returning to fall sports, said Dr. Jonathan Drezner, director of the University of Washington Medicine Center for Sports Cardiology and a sports medicine physician who advises the NCAA on cardiac issues, "and it could be we don't get there."

Conference officials and athletic directors told ESPN that the uncertainty about the long-term effects of myocarditis has been discussed in meetings of presidents and chancellors, commissioners and athletics directors, and health advisory board members from the Big Ten, Pac-12 and other conferences around the country. Last week, college administrators saw a Facebook post from Debbie Rucker, mother of Indiana offensive lineman Brady Feeney, who wrote that her son was dealing with potential heart problems after battling COVID-19.

The Mid-American Conference, after receiving medical reports about myocarditis and other problems associated with the coronavirus, was the first FBS conference to postpone fall sports on Saturday.

"What we don't know was really haunting us, and that's why we came to our final decision," Northern Illinois athletics director Sean Frazier said. "That's part of the data that our presidents used. This mom gave us a play-by-play. That stuff is extremely scary."

Dr. John MacKnight, the head primary care team physician at the University of Virginia, said that while questions about COVID-19 testing availability, turnaround time for results, and the impact of a possible community surge of cases have all been factors in deciding to return to competition, the long-term cardiac concerns for athletes may be the tipping point.


But what makes playing football anymore dangerous to the student than attending class ? At least Athletes will be tested frequently to see if they have the virus, average students will get one test.
Posted by TidenUP
Dauphin Island
Member since Apr 2011
14414 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 6:53 pm to
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could be linked with the coronavirus


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The condition is usually caused by a viral infection, including those that cause the common cold, H1N1 influenza or mononucleosis


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Left undiagnosed and untreated


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based on limited studies and anecdotal evidence


Is now gospel
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28285 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 6:57 pm to
quote:

I'm not pushing either, but as a parent of a college student, I am confused about these Presidents concerns over Athletes over the overall student body. All of a sudden they are concerned about inflammation of the heart with Athletes, what makes the rest of the student body immune to these issues ?


I have said it before and I will say it again.........lawsuits.

Students aren't forced to be there. Athletes, in their lawsuits, will say they felt pressured to compete even though health experts said there could be long term health issues with this virus.

Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111498 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 6:59 pm to
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A rare heart condition that could be linked with the coronavirus is fueling concern among Power 5 conference administrators about the viability of college sports this fall.


Everything is linked to Covid 19.
Everything.
There’s a study. Promise.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22220 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 7:02 pm to
Once all the money is collected for school, they gonna cancel it in person as well
Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
77292 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 7:07 pm to
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Athletes, in their lawsuits, will say they felt pressured to compete even though health experts said there could be long term health issues with this virus.


well haven't they already been told they can opt out for the season and keep their scholarship and eligibility?
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28285 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 7:21 pm to
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well haven't they already been told they can opt out for the season and keep their scholarship and eligibility?


Do you think that would matter? Some dumbass spilled hot coffee in her lap. She sued McDonald's because it was "too hot". She won almost $3M.


ETA health experts said from the very start this was a very dangerous virus. They have been saying recently that there could be long term health problems caused by this.
This post was edited on 8/10/20 at 7:23 pm
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51246 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 7:41 pm to
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The condition is usually caused by a viral infection, including those that cause the common cold, H1N1 influenza or mononucleosis.


Is there any reason to think it is more common with Covid vs other viruses?
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 7:49 pm to
I think the reason that the SEC feels comfortable with their protocols and barriers is because they've put their money to work.

That's money that the MAC and MWC just don't have. If they can't afford the level of testing and other things the SEC can, they truly may feel less safe.

That doesn't fly for the other P5 leagues, though.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
44874 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 7:51 pm to
The MAC and MWC were pretty much screwed the second OOC games were eliminated.
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