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re: LSU Fan Confession About Game Last Night

Posted on 4/24/15 at 10:52 am to
Posted by OGtigerfan73
Member since Feb 2015
709 posts
Posted on 4/24/15 at 10:52 am to
The umps had been squeezing the LSU pitchers for the last couple innings. There were pitches in that inning and in that at bat that were strikes that were called balls. I thought the last pitch was a ball in real time but it was razor close. That pitch if it was miscalled was no more of a screw job than the the other pitches he missed the other way.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 4/24/15 at 10:53 am to
quote:

I am hanging onto this gem.


you forgot the "its called baseball" part
Posted by Hugh McElroy
Member since Sep 2013
17338 posts
Posted on 4/24/15 at 10:54 am to
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out at 3rd and it was ball 4. but, it just be that way sometimes.


Yep. That's baseball.
Posted by rlebl39
League City, TX
Member since Jun 2011
4740 posts
Posted on 4/24/15 at 10:57 am to
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The real question is why did the Aggies trot out a .198 hitter in that situation?


This is the question they should be asking. In addition to batting sub .200, they pinch hit a right handed hitter to face a right handed pitcher. I didn't get that move.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43791 posts
Posted on 4/24/15 at 11:09 am to
There were some bad calls that went against aTm, but there was also some extremely sloppy play on their part.

First, they had the bases loaded twice and couldn't scratch a run across, and don't give me any shite about the 3-2 pitch. It was 50/50 and the ump had been inconsistent all night long so the kid should have been protecting in the situation.

Second, their pitcher made a poor decision and then a poor throw to second that led to the go-ahead run. Admittedly, this was after the runner could have been called out at 3rd, but it was such a bang-bang play that it takes people freezing the frame to say he was out, and you have to remember the umps don't get that luxury.

Third, the half assed effort the 3rd baseman made on the game winning hit was an abomination. That ball was chopped down the line so there's no reason he shouldn't have been able to make a better effort than he did to keep it from getting past him.

Fortunately, they get two more chances to rectify those mistakes. This is exactly the reason baseball is played in series and not single games.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
22277 posts
Posted on 4/24/15 at 11:12 am to
I thought he was out at third in live action, and I believe the replay shows this to be true.

You could find 4 pitches during the course of the game that the Aggie starter threw that were called strikes within a similar distance of the plate, one of them also being a 3-2 pitch, IIRC, maybe on Sciambra

I would suppose that the same pitch thrown as the first in his AB would have a better chance of being called a ball, but unfortunately for him, it came w a 3-2 count. No way was Strall trying to be that fine with the pitch.

Definitely sucks for the hitter. Really is a double standard, but a standard nonetheless. Men are wife beaters and women are whores. Lol
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
19266 posts
Posted on 4/24/15 at 11:20 am to
From several tv replays of the call at 3rd, the ump was in a blind position, behind the 3rd sacker & did not have a clear view of the tag. Being out of position is his fault, but with his view blocked, he did not "blow" the call. As for the third call strike, as it's been noted all season long by different announcers, it's not where the ball is caught by the catcher, it's where it crosses the plate. Ump rang him up decisively.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70891 posts
Posted on 4/24/15 at 11:25 am to
the pitch right before that strike was a strike and it was called a ball

as you said earlier, it's baseball. Swing on a full count unless it's just insanely obvious. Don't ever leave it up to the ump. This was taught to me in coach's pitch.
Posted by GeauxToBed
Covington, LA
Member since Mar 2015
6113 posts
Posted on 4/24/15 at 12:05 pm to
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Ritter


Would love to meet that rotten SOB IRL so I could knock the ever-living shite out of him.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67589 posts
Posted on 4/24/15 at 12:09 pm to
quote:

Even Ben McDonald admitted it was a ball.


A&M pitcher got that strike on more than one occasion....umpire missed every curveball Poche threw for a strike as well.

quote:

I also don't get why people say he should have swung.


Well it was called a strike that is one reason. The same pitch had been called several times throughout the game.
Posted by GeauxToBed
Covington, LA
Member since Mar 2015
6113 posts
Posted on 4/24/15 at 12:11 pm to
quote:

can either of provide any evidence that it wasn't a strike?


The freeze-frame I saw definitely looked like it could have gone either way. Granted, the camera wasn't centered, but it still looked much closer than some on here would like to admit.
Posted by Roses of Crimson
Sweet home Ala-bam
Member since Nov 2014
1631 posts
Posted on 4/24/15 at 12:13 pm to
ah, bad calls happen. Both ways. Don't apologize for it. If a game comes down to one call then you probably didn't play well enough to win it anyway.

BTW, A&M baseball not ready for the big SEC stage. LSU has been there, done that. A&M never thought they would win. I look for LSU at a minimum to win the series but probably sweep. Lights are a little to bright for Aggie right now.
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
28193 posts
Posted on 4/24/15 at 1:00 pm to
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near the 3rd base bag - in fair territory - , and the SECOND bounce of the ball was foul, but it first hit FAIR. The ump called it fair because of that.


That is not what determines a ball to be fair or foul. It did however look fair to me on TV last night.
Posted by MetryTyger
Metro NOLA, LA
Member since Jan 2004
15580 posts
Posted on 4/24/15 at 1:36 pm to
Does it have to hit in fair territory beyond the 3rd base bag to be fair?
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
28193 posts
Posted on 4/24/15 at 1:42 pm to
No, only cross the bag.
Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
Member since Apr 2008
24550 posts
Posted on 4/24/15 at 1:42 pm to
quote:

I think the most glaring miss was the tag at third



and LSU has never ever been screwed by a bad call or some bullshite rematch



I am embarrassed that you root for LSU
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
28193 posts
Posted on 4/24/15 at 1:53 pm to
quote:

and LSU has never ever been screwed by a bad call


Just to be clear, bad calls happen all the time but only the bad calls that go against LSU are screwings?
Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
Member since Apr 2008
24550 posts
Posted on 4/24/15 at 1:55 pm to
quote:

Just to be clear



does Bama even play baseball anymore?
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96006 posts
Posted on 4/24/15 at 1:56 pm to
quote:

Does it have to hit in fair territory beyond the 3rd base bag to be fair?



no
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
28193 posts
Posted on 4/24/15 at 1:56 pm to
quote:

does Bama even play baseball anymore?


We used to but a dog pile put an end to it.
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