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LSU-Bama statistical comparison so far this century.
Posted on 11/6/14 at 9:11 pm
Posted on 11/6/14 at 9:11 pm
Bama was able to have one of the greatest four year stretches in CFB history winning 3 BCSNC from 2009-2012.
LSU has been, arguably, the most successful and consistent program in CFB so far this century.
I was surprised to find that LSU still leads Bama in nearly all categories in a head-to-head statistical comparison:
Head-to-head: LSU 9 Bama 6
Total Wins: LSU 143 Bama 104
Vacated Wins: LSU 0 Bama 21 (academic $candal)
10 win seasons: LSU 9 Bama 7
Losing Seasons: LSU 0 Bama 5
SEC Titles: LSU 4 Bama 2
Bowl Record: LSU 9-5 Bama 6-5 (1 vacated)
BCS Bowls: LSU 2-0 Bama 0-2
BCSNC Games: LSU 2-1 Bama 3-0
Iron Bowl: AU 9 Bama 5
LSU- AU: LSU 9 AU 5
Bama has 3 BCSNC Titles, but is still far behind LSU in all the other categories listed.
I would like to ask Bama fans if, hypothetically, they would trade the success of the 2009-2012 BCS Titles for the more consistent success of LSU? You would ,essentially, be giving up 1 NC and erasing the nasty losing seasons, vacated wins, and losing record in the Iron Bowl.
The reason I ask, is because I have been told that nothing is more important to Bama fans than a NC and just wanted to put this theory to the test here on the secrant.
For other SEC fans, which program do you think has been more impressive so far this century?
LSU has been, arguably, the most successful and consistent program in CFB so far this century.
I was surprised to find that LSU still leads Bama in nearly all categories in a head-to-head statistical comparison:
Head-to-head: LSU 9 Bama 6
Total Wins: LSU 143 Bama 104
Vacated Wins: LSU 0 Bama 21 (academic $candal)
10 win seasons: LSU 9 Bama 7
Losing Seasons: LSU 0 Bama 5
SEC Titles: LSU 4 Bama 2
Bowl Record: LSU 9-5 Bama 6-5 (1 vacated)
BCS Bowls: LSU 2-0 Bama 0-2
BCSNC Games: LSU 2-1 Bama 3-0
Iron Bowl: AU 9 Bama 5
LSU- AU: LSU 9 AU 5
Bama has 3 BCSNC Titles, but is still far behind LSU in all the other categories listed.
I would like to ask Bama fans if, hypothetically, they would trade the success of the 2009-2012 BCS Titles for the more consistent success of LSU? You would ,essentially, be giving up 1 NC and erasing the nasty losing seasons, vacated wins, and losing record in the Iron Bowl.
The reason I ask, is because I have been told that nothing is more important to Bama fans than a NC and just wanted to put this theory to the test here on the secrant.
For other SEC fans, which program do you think has been more impressive so far this century?
This post was edited on 11/6/14 at 10:43 pm
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Posted on 11/6/14 at 9:13 pm to BlackCloud
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trade the success of the 2009-2012 BCS Titles for the more consistent success of LSU?
No
Posted on 11/6/14 at 9:13 pm to BlackCloud
Hell no, I would not trade, although I like CLM a lot. Which one would we have to give up, 21-0? I think I see what you did there.
Posted on 11/6/14 at 9:13 pm to BlackCloud
You want us to say LSU right?
Posted on 11/6/14 at 9:14 pm to BlackCloud
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Bama has 3 BCSNC Titles, but is still far behind LSU in all the other categories listed.
I would like to ask Bama fans if, hypothetically, they would trade the success of the 2009-2012 BCS Titles for the more consistent success of LSU? You would ,essentially, be giving up 1 NC and erasing the nasty losing seasons, vacated wins, and losing record in the Iron Bowl.
I would not trade.
Posted on 11/6/14 at 9:14 pm to BlackCloud
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I would like to ask Bama fans if, hypothetically, they would trade the success of the 2009-2012 BCS Titles for the more consistent success of LSU? You would ,essentially, be giving up 1 NC and erasing the nasty losing seasons, vacated wins, and losing record in the Iron Bowl.
no thanks
Posted on 11/6/14 at 9:15 pm to ErnestTBassmaster
Plus, unlike some schools, we have a storied history at the University of Alabama which predates 2000.
Posted on 11/6/14 at 9:16 pm to BlackCloud
I think if you asked the exact same question, and made it so where Saban was still their coach, it would make it more interesting.
Posted on 11/6/14 at 9:19 pm to BlackCloud
While I really hated the down years early in the century, they made those titles taste that much sweeter.
So, no, wouldn't trade.
So, no, wouldn't trade.
Posted on 11/6/14 at 9:20 pm to BlackCloud
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I would like to ask Bama fans if, hypothetically, they would trade the success of the 2009-2012 BCS Titles for the more consistent success of LSU?
Posted on 11/6/14 at 9:21 pm to BayouBengals03
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I think if you asked the exact same question, and made it so where Saban was still their coach, it would make it more interesting.
Sure it would, if the question was not restricted on the consistency issue. But no self-respecting Alabama fan is going to give up one of our seventy one national championships. Not sure if serious.
BayouBengal, you are a pretty good poster. If LSU fans were given the same trade on the same terms? Well?
Posted on 11/6/14 at 9:22 pm to BlackCloud
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this century.
That kills me every time I see it.
And the only people who ever say it are LSU fans.
Posted on 11/6/14 at 9:25 pm to ErnestTBassmaster
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Sure it would, if the question was not restricted on the consistency issue.
I asked the question "hypothetically" assuming that everyone would understand I meant on the consistency versus 1 more NC.
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But no self-respecting Alabama fan is going to give up one of our seventy one national championships. Not sure if serious.
Bama posters are already proving the theory to be correct.
For most of us the most important events of our lives include weddings, graduations and the birth of our children. For Bama fans all of these things are secondary compared to winning a NC.
Posted on 11/6/14 at 9:27 pm to Tuscaloosa
The disparity in Bama fan opinion of using the century mark vs talking about an obscure length of history (already done in this thread), is predictable, yet so ironic.
You needed 4 emoticons to display your disgust with the century time line, yet you undoubtedly row tied the reference to the rich history of Bama. And I'm sure you love starting in 2008 to display the greatness of Saban and Bama. Don't you see what we see when you do this?
You needed 4 emoticons to display your disgust with the century time line, yet you undoubtedly row tied the reference to the rich history of Bama. And I'm sure you love starting in 2008 to display the greatness of Saban and Bama. Don't you see what we see when you do this?
Posted on 11/6/14 at 9:27 pm to BlackCloud
And LSU fans wonder why they get teased for thinking football was established there in 2000.
Ya'll are doing just fine. You'll never be Alabama though, ya'll just gotta live with that.
Ya'll are doing just fine. You'll never be Alabama though, ya'll just gotta live with that.
Posted on 11/6/14 at 9:29 pm to ErnestTBassmaster
Bama would probably still be irrelevant if LSU hadn't hired Saban. The fanbase lived vicariously off the success of teams that played before most posters here were born outside of 1996 until our former coach gave them hope. Order will be restored this weekend.
This post was edited on 11/6/14 at 9:30 pm
Posted on 11/6/14 at 9:31 pm to IAmReality
Your gump logic of praising the 2008-present span is so much more arbitrary. Such a pathetic attempt to perpetuate this double standard is SOP for you people.
Yes, looking at periods of time is intended to highlight an Era of success. Bama laughing at this is the epitome of hypocrisy.
Yes, looking at periods of time is intended to highlight an Era of success. Bama laughing at this is the epitome of hypocrisy.
This post was edited on 11/6/14 at 9:32 pm
Posted on 11/6/14 at 9:32 pm to IAmReality
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And LSU fans wonder why they get teased for thinking football was established there in 2000.
Those who tease only prove their ignorance of CFB history. LSU was a top 10-15 program before little Nicholas Saban ever stepped foot on campus.
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Ya'll are doing just fine. You'll never be Alabama though, ya'll just gotta live with that.
Thanks, I wasn't alive when Bama won most of those NC's in the 1920's - 1970's. I don't live in the past.
Posted on 11/6/14 at 9:33 pm to Sampson
If LSU had never hired Saban there's a strong chance Alabama would indeed still be a has-been.
LSU would be a never was.
LSU would be a never was.
Posted on 11/6/14 at 9:33 pm to GRTiger
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Bama laughing at this is the epitome of hypocrisy.
Sorry... you'll have to forgive us for not believing that looking at our program's success comparative to LSU while we had Mike DuBose, Dennis Franchione, and Mike Shula is a relevant measuring stick.
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