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re: LSU and Texas A&M Have Not Met As Top 15 Teams Since 1987

Posted on 10/24/24 at 9:48 am to
Posted by BhamTigah
Lurker since Jan 2003
Member since Jan 2007
16120 posts
Posted on 10/24/24 at 9:48 am to
quote:

I have a new appreciation for A&M being in the SEC. At least you guys fit culturally.
Posted by stopitnow1
Florida
Member since Mar 2013
1623 posts
Posted on 10/24/24 at 9:54 am to
2nd most national titles in the BCS/playoff era with 4 total appearances. How many national titles have has Texas 8&4 played for and won?
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
58122 posts
Posted on 10/24/24 at 10:08 am to
Strange way to take a compliment
Posted by stopitnow1
Florida
Member since Mar 2013
1623 posts
Posted on 10/24/24 at 10:12 am to
There's been no compliments from Texas 8&4 so I just assumed you were being a smart arse lol.
Posted by WaterLink
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
19690 posts
Posted on 10/24/24 at 10:17 am to
quote:

Heard a stat Tigers are 8-0 in those games.

Yikes if true.


I just went to the AP Poll archive and cross referenced winsipedia for the dates of the games to check this stat. LSU and A&M have only met twice when both teams were ranked in the top 15 - 1987 and 1986. LSU won both games. Both games were season openers, though both teams would also finish those years in the top 15 so the preseason rankings seem to be warranted.
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
24695 posts
Posted on 10/24/24 at 10:50 am to
At least Gameday won't be there. That is an auto-loss for A&M
Posted by Tarpon08
Cut Off, LA
Member since Dec 2014
6435 posts
Posted on 10/24/24 at 11:27 am to
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At least Gameday won't be there. That is an auto-loss for A&M


brb...calling Reece that there's been a change of plans....
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
8530 posts
Posted on 10/24/24 at 11:28 am to
Yep. Furk Gameday. DO NOT WANT
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
2059 posts
Posted on 10/24/24 at 12:10 pm to
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...they pulled out of a 10 year contract...
...I inherited a 10-year contract...
...cut the contract off with two years remaining

10-year contract, you say?

Here's your 10 games under the contract:

September 13, 1986 Baton Rouge, LA #15 LSU 35–17
September 5, 1987 College Station, TX #6 LSU 17–3
September 3, 1988 Baton Rouge, LA #17 LSU 27–0
September 2, 1989 College Station, TX Texas A&M 28–16
September 29, 1990 Baton Rouge, LA LSU 17–8
September 14, 1991 College Station, TX #20 Texas A&M 45–7
September 5, 1992 Baton Rouge, LA #7 Texas A&M 31–22
September 4, 1993 College Station, TX #5 Texas A&M 24–0
September 3, 1994 Baton Rouge, LA #15 Texas A&M 18–13
September 2, 1995 College Station, TX #3 Texas A&M 33–17

It doesn't look like LSU backed out of any games under the original contract to me.

But yes, the SEC forced LSU to upgrade their schedule by replacing A&M with Arkansas.
Posted by Who_Dat_Tiger
Member since Nov 2015
22478 posts
Posted on 10/24/24 at 12:37 pm to
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3 national championships since ‘87, nice

That’s a modern blue blood right there
youre goddamn right. This won’t go the way you think.

who has more than us in that period other than Alabama? Certainly explains why you girls dickride them so much
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
58122 posts
Posted on 10/24/24 at 12:40 pm to
Go what way? It’s weird how defensive you cats get and you can’t take compliments
Posted by theliontamer
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2015
1402 posts
Posted on 10/24/24 at 12:47 pm to
well yea, that's because we always played them at the end of the season when they joined the conference.
Posted by Mr Sausage
Cat Spring, Texas
Member since Oct 2011
14599 posts
Posted on 10/24/24 at 12:57 pm to
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It doesn't look like LSU backed out of any games under the original contract to me.


Thanks, Harry. We've been waiting on you to arrive on the board and give us your thoughts.

LSU fans have been hiding behind the "SEC made us do it" excuse ever since LSU got tired of starting off the season with a loss. Ironic these days right?
Posted by AllDayEveryDay
Nawf Tejas
Member since Jun 2015
8492 posts
Posted on 10/24/24 at 1:00 pm to
I believe it was a 10 game with a home and home rollover to make it 12. I think LSU (and A&M) was assuming A&M would join the SEC, which we likely would have, if that bitch Ann Richards fricked us over funding for Reed arena and an attempt to make Baylor relevant (her alma mater).

After it was apparent we weren't joining, LSU backed out of the additional 2, because they couldn't afford an additional arse beating on top of the now 8 game schedule (+3 non conf) they had to play. All non conf were at home so no equal site, even though LSU offered a neutral site.

All jokes aside it was mostly about money. LSU could make more on a home game, and have a better record not playing A&M in a non conference schedule, and A&M benefitted in the same manner. That's why the 200k LSU owed for reneging on the contract was settled for half.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
86623 posts
Posted on 10/24/24 at 1:02 pm to
that yall are still hung up on this 30 years later is fricking hilarious

i guess when you have no history and live in a cow pasture this sort of thing is all you have to occupy yourselves with
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
164530 posts
Posted on 10/24/24 at 1:03 pm to
quote:

LSU football existed before 2000?


It existed before 1939 too!
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
2059 posts
Posted on 10/24/24 at 1:18 pm to
quote:

with a home and home rollover to make it 12

An automatic 2-year renewal was signed in the second year of the original contract.
quote:

That's why the 200k LSU owed for reneging on the contract was settled for half.

The terms of the renewal contract were that either party terminating the contract before the term was up had to pay the other party $200,000 OR $100,000 and a suitable replacement. LSU offered up USL and $100,000. A&M balked saying USL wasn't a suitable replacement. Then this happened:



THAT'S when aggies started to freak the frick out about the contract.

LSU abided by the terms of the original contract, playing all ten games, in spite of the fact that they now had to play home-and-away games with Arkansas in the final 3 years of the term.

LSU abided by the terms of the contract extension by paying the prescribed amount and providing a suitable replacement.

Conversely, A&M got their dick bent by a directional school, and swore they'd NEVER play LSU EVER, EVER again.
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
51790 posts
Posted on 10/24/24 at 1:36 pm to
Some ranking history on the series since 1987.

1987: #15 A&M, #6 Lsu
1988: #11 A&M, #17 Lsu
1989: NR A&M, #7 Lsu
1990: #11 A&M, NR Lsu
1991: #20 A&M, NR Lsu
1992: #7 A&M, NR Lsu
1993: #5 A&M, NR Lsu
1994: #15 A&M, NR Lsu
1995: #3 A&M, NR Lsu
----Lsu quit the series---
2010: #18 A&M, #11 Lsu (Cotton Bowl)
2012: #20 A&M, #6 Lsu
2013: #9 A&M, #18 Lsu
2014: NR A&M, NR Lsu
2015: NR A&M, NR Lsu
2016: #22 A&M, #25 Lsu
2017: NR A&M, #19 Lsu
2018: NR A&M, #8 Lsu
2019: NR A&M, #1 Lsu
2020: #5 A&M, NR Lsu
2021: #14 A&M, NR Lsu
2022: NR A&M, #6 Lsu
2023: NR A&M, #14 Lsu
2024: #14 A&M, #8 Lsu

Both Ranked: 7
Neither Ranked: 2
Only Lsu: 6
Only A&M: 8
This post was edited on 10/24/24 at 1:36 pm
Posted by Tarpon08
Cut Off, LA
Member since Dec 2014
6435 posts
Posted on 10/24/24 at 2:00 pm to
quote:

Some ranking history on the series since 1987




This was what I had intended to put together last night when making this post but Winsipedia and Wikipedia did not have the rankings for both teams readily available.

Good Work Farmer!
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
59935 posts
Posted on 10/24/24 at 2:11 pm to
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And about a decade before the Aggies reneged on their contract to continue playing LSU in the mid 90’s.


Why are so many of you LSU folk so damn ignorant?
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