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re: Lots of realignment rumors spiking back up
Posted on 4/28/23 at 2:30 pm to Carolina_Girl
Posted on 4/28/23 at 2:30 pm to Carolina_Girl
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You know the first article is from February, correct? And the 2nd from the beginning of March that was parroting what was said in the article from February.
This "smoke" is recycled.
Yes, I do. But those are statements from the athletic director, president, and trustees for FSU/Clemson very publicly stating that they are going to figure out how to get out of the ACC. That's not "smoke", that's a fire.
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Posted on 4/28/23 at 3:04 pm to BreakawayZou83
Ask a few folks about Graham Neff. Even ask Clemson fans. See how much they trust the guy. Most will tell you not even half as far as they can throw him.
I give zero shits if Clemson comes to the SEC. We play them every yr anyway, regardless. We rarely recruit the same guys. Theirs don't fit our system, ours don't fit theirs. So any advantage moving to the SEC gives them recruiting wise will not really affect us.
But I think they're trying to wish it into happening out of pure desperation more than any hard and fast basis for it actually happening. We shall see.
I give zero shits if Clemson comes to the SEC. We play them every yr anyway, regardless. We rarely recruit the same guys. Theirs don't fit our system, ours don't fit theirs. So any advantage moving to the SEC gives them recruiting wise will not really affect us.
But I think they're trying to wish it into happening out of pure desperation more than any hard and fast basis for it actually happening. We shall see.
Posted on 4/28/23 at 3:20 pm to BreakawayZou83
Seriously don't want those Clemson assholes in the SEC. They are beyond annoying.
Posted on 4/28/23 at 3:30 pm to gamecockman12
I don’t like them either but I’d trade in a NY minute if we could get rid of A&M or keep Texas or Oklahoma out of the SEC
Posted on 4/28/23 at 11:24 pm to DawginSC
I highly DOUBT the SEC will stay idle if/when the B1G increases in #'s. As to the XII growing......unsure.
Posted on 4/28/23 at 11:37 pm to remaster916
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Lots of realignment rumors spiking back up by remaster916
with two teams from the western US
Honestly I'm torn on this. While it goes against our region angle, I DO wonder if the SEC would go Westward or Northward to get teams? While I understand the geographically travel nightmare, would the SEC match the B1G with CA schools? (I think Oregon & Washington (while tempting) would just be TOO far.)
This post was edited on 4/28/23 at 11:52 pm
Posted on 4/28/23 at 11:41 pm to southernboisb
Expanding into North Carolina and Virginia seem like the only logical places left. Perhaps West Virginia.
Posted on 4/28/23 at 11:42 pm to Hurricane2020
BUT the catch is:
It all depends where these schools go - GT (UGA), Clemson (SC), FSU (Florida), & Louisville (Kentucky).
These in-state rivalries aren't going away.
It all depends where these schools go - GT (UGA), Clemson (SC), FSU (Florida), & Louisville (Kentucky).
These in-state rivalries aren't going away.
Posted on 4/28/23 at 11:48 pm to AUTiger789
Wow! With GT's history with the SEC, you have them higher than I expected.
Posted on 4/29/23 at 12:48 am to BreakawayZou83
All this shite bums me out to be honest. It’s going to be fun playing ball with y’all poor ugly folks, but it is bitter sweet. I’d prefer a competitive intact Big12. Texas being apart of some southern conglomerate just doesn’t feel natural yet. Y’all remember when Boston College was an elite offensive line factory in the 2000’s? I feel like shite like that is lost in the past. I don’t even know what the frick I’m talking about. There’s this quote In Frankenstein, “Nothing is so painful to the human mind as a great and sudden change” I think that is what I’m trying to express. I’m not even dying like most of you, I’m fresh out of college. Even I’m mourning the death of tradition and pageantry in college football.
Posted on 4/29/23 at 7:06 am to EastTXHorn
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I’d prefer a competitive intact Big12.
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Texas Fan
Posted on 4/29/23 at 7:27 am to TheCheshireHog
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The inherent problem with any ACC to SEC move is what’s the incentive for ESPN?
The next TV deal will be a multi platform deal that will need more product.
Posted on 4/29/23 at 7:45 am to BreakawayZou83
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But those are statements from the athletic director, president, and trustees for FSU/Clemson very publicly stating that they are going to figure out how to get out of the ACC
This is not about getting out of the GOR. Rather it is saber rattling by the ACC football schools to force the ACC minnows into an unequal revenue distribution model. Getting a bigger slice of the ACC revenue pie shrinks the money gap between Clemson/FSU and the B1G/SEC.
There is precedent for such a distribution model. Doing so in the ACC is in the interest of the minnows when the alternative is irrelevancy should the football schools find a way out.
This post was edited on 4/29/23 at 7:47 am
Posted on 4/29/23 at 8:41 am to Carolina_Girl
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Carolina_Girl
Stay in your lane. Don’t you have a sammich to make or something?
Posted on 4/29/23 at 8:48 am to BreakawayZou83
If conferences get bigger than 16 they either further reduce or eliminate out of conference games. That’s an interesting dynamic. In theory it increases the value of a tv deal with no garbage games. On the other hand, it reduces home games further and reduces a team’s likelihood of a bowl game. Candidly bowls are stupid now anyway for the big conferences. All the good players skip it and a lot of the team’s look at it as a vacation rather than a game.
Posted on 4/29/23 at 8:57 am to EastTXHorn
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Even I’m mourning the death of tradition and pageantry in college football.
Yeah, the $$$ transformed it with warp speed. There’s a few folks who still want to believe this version of CFB isn’t 100% a business. But they’re becoming few and far between.
Posted on 4/29/23 at 9:05 am to EastTXHorn
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All this shite bums me out to be honest
Here, here. I long for the days of 10 or even 12 SEC teams.
Posted on 4/29/23 at 9:07 am to BreakawayZou83
It doesn’t really matter what the 6 ‘big’ schools in the ACC want. The remaining 8 midget schools like Syracuse and Boston college will never agree to blow up the ACC because it would absolutely ruin their athletic programs
Posted on 4/29/23 at 9:16 am to SneezyBeltranIsHere
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This was always the plan.
They will have their 2 conference champions play for the national title. They will control all of the meaningful post-season revenue.
I think it is the way forward. I don't know if it will be better for the fans who go to games and possibly even those at home. But it will be better for the schools and players. Essentially a 48-team semi-pro league.
Posted on 4/29/23 at 9:20 am to BevoBucks
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Yeah, the $$$ transformed it with warp speed. There’s a few folks who still want to believe this version of CFB isn’t 100% a business. But they’re becoming few and far between.
The only way cfb was not going to end up like this is if the SCOTUS ruled in favor of the NCAA in NCAA v. Board of Regents of the University of Oklahoma.
The NCAA preventing a free market for television contracts amongst the schools was the precise regulator necessary to maintain the "pageantry and tradition" of college football. Once market logic was fully enmeshed within the sport, time was the only factor between the state of college ball in the 1970s to what is just over the horizon (a semi-pro league of college football programs).
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