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re: Looks like we are moving forward with a 7+1 schedule after next year

Posted on 10/13/23 at 9:32 am to
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 10/13/23 at 9:32 am to
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There is no way we agree to let the Georgia game go.




LOL at thinking AU has any say in the matter. You will do what the networks tell you to do and there's nothing you can do about it. The only alternative would be keeping UGA and giving up the iron bowl, which obviously isn't gonna happen.
Posted by VFL1800FPD
Nashville, TN
Member since Aug 2012
9761 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 9:38 am to
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The people 30 and under likely don't GAF abotu history and tradition and would rather see us play texas and oklahoma more often even if it means losing traditionally important games.


Just for the record, I'm around 30 and I hate it.

I also agree that the "play every team every 2/4 years is such a huge plus" thing is stupid. Never in the history of the conference has that been a thing. Bama went 40 years without playing Auburn. Vandy and LSU have only played 30 times. State has played UGA 25 times. And there are plenty more examples.

It's all for money and its disgusting. I just hope VOLS win a few more games before it's a completely different product. This will be the last "normal" year of CFB we'll likely ever have.
This post was edited on 10/13/23 at 9:39 am
Posted by VFL1800FPD
Nashville, TN
Member since Aug 2012
9761 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 9:39 am to
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The only alternative would be keeping UGA and giving up the iron bowl, which obviously isn't gonna happen


The AL legislature would step in for sure.
Posted by New Money
Athens, GA
Member since Jun 2023
3842 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 9:42 am to
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Surely DSOR will continue as an out of conf game if the SEC is truly this stupid, Uga and Au can keep it going if they truly want to


The SEC nixed the UGA/OU series because UGA's return game in Norman would have been after OU was a member. They wouldn't let that one be played as a non-conference game.
Posted by skrayper
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 10/13/23 at 9:48 am to
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Disgusting. I never thought I would see the DSOR series tabled.


If true it also means the end of the TSIO.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
89715 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 9:49 am to
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Just for the record, I'm around 30 and I hate it.


yeah 30 was probably a generous cutoff since 30 is clearly adult-aged. I more so meant young people that don't really value history and tradition. I guess mainly HS/college aged people.

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I also agree that the "play every team every 2/4 years is such a huge plus" thing is stupid. Never in the history of the conference has that been a thing. Bama went 40 years without playing Auburn. Vandy and LSU have only played 30 times. State has played UGA 25 times. And there are plenty more example


it's so crazy. Obviously it's only about money but I wonder how these executives can sit there with a straight face and sell us this shite under the guise of it being good for the league. "you get to play everyone more often!" Nobody is asking for that, nobody cares. I'm almost certain that well over half of hte league would absolutely be in favor of having more than 1 team htey play annually.
This post was edited on 10/13/23 at 9:51 am
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
89715 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 9:54 am to
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The SEC nixed the UGA/OU series because UGA's return game in Norman would have been after OU was a member. They wouldn't let that one be played as a non-conference game.


that doesn't have anythign to do with the topic though. It would make less than zero sense from UGA's perspective to play an OOC game in 2024 in norman when they would be a league game in 2031. The ACC had a major rivalry, I think it was UNC/Wake, that had been palyed over 100 times that was going to miss a year for whatever reason and they played OOC.

The uga/ou thing was different because it was a series that was scheduled years before this dumbass expansion started. I can't imagine the SEC having a porblem if uga/au wanted to play OOC. In fact, I don't even know if they'd have any say in the matter at all. What UGA and AU choose to do regarding their OOC schedule is no business of the SEC's.
Posted by AUTiger789
Birmingham, AL
Member since Apr 2022
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Posted on 10/13/23 at 9:57 am to
What it will likely be:

Alabama-Auburn
Ole Miss-Miss St
Florida-Georgia
Tennessee-Vanderbilt
Texas-Oklahoma
LSU-Texas A&M
Missouri-Kentucky
S. Carolina-Arkansas

Until now only world wars could disrupt the South’s oldest rivalry… apparently now so can Greg Sankey and the poor half of the league.

I’m all for playing this as an OOC game FYI if we must.
Posted by GTnerd
ATL Jawja baby
Member since Sep 2023
695 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 9:57 am to
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The SEC nixed the UGA/OU series because UGA's return game in Norman would have been after OU was a member. They wouldn't let that one be played as a non-conference game.



Damn, how does the SEC have that much power over out of conf scheduling?
Posted by Smokeys Howl
Member since Oct 2022
1985 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 10:35 am to
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This is just so mind numbingly fricking stupid. There is literally no downside to a 6/3 model.


Except you'd get to dodge Alabama, while others would not. And some teams would have to play Georgia and Alabama every year, while others would not.

Even one permanent rival will make these schedules unfair to some, depending on the year. But 3 is worse.

But I get it why you'd be pissed off. No more unfair advantage for you. The days of playing a cupcake schedule like 2023 will be over for Georgia.

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Tennessee-Vanderbilt


Hmm. Well, after being the only east team to have to play Alabama every year, all thru their (now past) heyday, I'd say this would be poetic for us to draw Candy for a few decades.

I'll allow it.
This post was edited on 10/13/23 at 10:44 am
Posted by SoonerMagic1
Bartlesville, OK
Member since Mar 2022
211 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 10:39 am to
A 7+1, that Saban wants, guarantees that every team will play each other team, home and away, in a four year period.

A 6+3 schedule, guarantees that every team will play each other team, home and away, in a four year period.

So what does Saban really want? He really wants 4 nonconference games. One against a legit P5 opponent at a neutral site such as at Atlanta or Birmingham. He sure couldn't schedule someone like Ohio State at a neutral site such as Indianapolis, Cleveland, or Cincinnati; they would play the Buckeyes in Atlanta. And then he puts 3 pussies on the schedule.

Amazing that SEC fans are so proud of the strength of the SEC, and deservedly so, and then shy away from playing 9 conference teams and settle for only 8.
This post was edited on 10/13/23 at 10:53 am
Posted by Smokeys Howl
Member since Oct 2022
1985 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 10:47 am to
"and then shy away from playing 9 conference teams and settle for only 8"

SOS wont matter much anymore, with the new playoff format. And with them trying to lock out the 3rd or 4th best SEC team in favor of a 'conference champ' from some craphole conference, it makes sense for the SEC teams to go with the easier schedules. Otherwise some playoff-worthy teams will get looked over.

SOS mattered in the BCS era. Mattered in the four team playoff era.

12 teams? Pfft. Don't matter.
This post was edited on 10/13/23 at 10:48 am
Posted by TheTideMustRoll
Birmingham, AL
Member since Dec 2009
10386 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 11:13 am to
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Amazing that SEC fans are so proud of the strength of the SEC, and deservedly so, and then shy away from playing 9 conference teams and settle for only 8.


Uh, this is an entire thread of nothing but SEC fans bitching about this stupid-arse decision. Unfortunately we, the consumers of the product, are also the last thing the people who make the decisions about the product consider.
Posted by gamecockhub
Lexington, SC
Member since Sep 2017
368 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 11:21 am to
If this is the way they go it is asinine!!
Posted by madmaxvol
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Member since Oct 2011
21769 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 11:28 am to
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The following games of massive historical relevance/importance/whatever you want to say are now no longer going to be played annually all in the name of money:

-UGA/Auburn
-Bama/Tennessee
-LSU/Ole Miss
-Bama/Miss St
-Tenn/Kentucky
-LSU/Florida
-Tenn/Florida
-Bama/LSU
-UGA/SC




Probably so...for my school, we lose:

UT vs Bama - TSIO (Played 105 times in the last 122 years)

UT vs UK - Battle of the Beer Barrel (Played 118 times in the last 130 years)

Two of the rival games that (among other rivalries) helped make the SEC into what it is.

This sucks...
Posted by GTnerd
ATL Jawja baby
Member since Sep 2023
695 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 11:30 am to
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Of course the nerd has the dumb idea of playing SEC teams OOC


I mean it’s not an idea, it’s your only choice if you care more about tradition than playing cupcakes
Posted by New Money
Athens, GA
Member since Jun 2023
3842 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 12:40 pm to
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I don't even know if they'd have any say in the matter at all. What UGA and AU choose to do regarding their OOC schedule is no business of the SEC's.


How would they not have a say in the matter for UGA/AU when they had a say in the matter for UGA/OU?
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41625 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 12:45 pm to
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Wtih the 3/6, there's 3 permanents on your scheudle so that's 12 other league teams that you coudl have on your scheudle in a given year -Play 6 one year, the other 6 the next. The math works out perfectly. You would end up playing every team in the league at least once every 2 years, and at least twice every 4 years. You would play all 12 non-permanents home and away during a 4 year period. I don't know why the fatcats are so hellbent on that not being the best option.


Saban and Bama don’t like their 3
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41625 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 12:46 pm to
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haven’t folowed the scheduling talk much but does a 6+2 not work logistically?


No
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
89715 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 12:47 pm to
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How would they not have a say in the matter for UGA/AU


The SEC has nothing to do with non-SEC games. If UGA/AU want to paly a game OOC why int he world would the SEC be involved? It's no different than us trying to schedule a game with clemson or oregaon

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when they had a say in the matter for UGA/OU?



2023 = UGA plays OU while they're not in the SEC
2031 = UGA plays OU while they are in the SEC

It's a completely entirely different set of circumstances.
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