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re: Looking for insight on Heupel: Offense looks strong. Is defense & personality the issue?
Posted on 1/27/21 at 11:46 am to BamaGradinTn
Posted on 1/27/21 at 11:46 am to BamaGradinTn
I think this should be graded on a curve. He took Kansas to bowls five out of eight seasons and rarely looked pathetic. Kansas has not won more than three games since they fired him in 2009. It almost can't be oversold how desperately pathetic the Kansas football program is.
Tennessee's version of Mangino would win back-to-back natties.
Tennessee's version of Mangino would win back-to-back natties.
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Posted on 1/27/21 at 11:48 am to VagueMessage
A lot of like Ralph Friedgen at Maryland
Posted on 1/27/21 at 11:57 am to surgicalvenom
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Heupal needs a strong armed, accurate QB to make his offense work. At Mizzou he had Drew Lock. At UCF he had the kid that suffered a nasty leg injury, but before that was great.
Heupal can recruit QB talent, but we don't know if he can develop. He doesn't teach a traditional read system to his QB. It's more throw it where the play is called. They also move very fast. Our offense had more possessions than anyone in the country. But even with Locks talent, most possessions ended in 3 and out and forced the defense right back out. They were dead by the 4th quarter.
Odom found Heupal on the scrap heap at Utah State not too long ago. He couldn't make his offense work at OU, with the best talent in the Big 12 and with no one playing defense. My take is, give him a NFL caliber QB, and he's aces. Anything less, he is below average. But maybe he has learned some new tricks.
Everybody laughed at Mizzou hiring Drink, so no one knows shite about how things will work out. Good Luck.
I appreciate the info
He should have some talent to work with at QB so atleast he has that going for him. I'm not expecting much regardless with the sanctions inevitably on the way. I will say, any offense at this point will be better than what we've seen the last several years. At minimum it looks like he needs to get a good DC & some recruiters and just stay out of their way.
Wasn't he the OC the year Lock broke all of those passing records for you guys a while back?
Posted on 1/27/21 at 11:57 am to VagueMessage
12 wins at Kansas should qualify Mangino for sainthood.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 11:57 am to Poker Dough
Posted on 1/27/21 at 12:00 pm to TRUERockyTop
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He looks like he doesn't even llike himself :/
LMFAOOOOOO
Posted on 1/27/21 at 12:04 pm to Roger Podacter
This guy is a bumbling loser.
What a hire.
What a hire.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 12:24 pm to Hback
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Looks like he's dropped some pounds (and he shaved :)
Even wore the Bruce Wayne costume
Posted on 1/27/21 at 12:24 pm to VagueMessage
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I think this should be graded on a curve. He took Kansas to bowls five out of eight seasons and rarely looked pathetic. Kansas has not won more than three games since they fired him in 2009. It almost can't be oversold how desperately pathetic the Kansas football program is.
Actually, while Kansas has sucked since Mangino, his tenure wasn't significantly better than Glen Mason, two coaches before Mangino.
1996 4 7
1995 10 2
1994 6 5
1993 5 7
1992 8 4
1991 6 5
1990 3 7 1
1989 4 7
1988 1 10
So it really doesn't make sense to grade Mangino "on a curve", because what little he did at Kansas wasn't really completely unprecedented.
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Tennessee's version of Mangino would win back-to-back natties.
You're a funny guy!
Posted on 1/27/21 at 12:44 pm to TRUERockyTop
His offenses produces a lot of empty stats when the game is done and we got those prevent yards.
It’s not an offense that will generate any consistency. You’ll either see five 3 and outs or a point flurry. And those flurries decrease when facing halfway competent defenses.
It’s not an offense that will generate any consistency. You’ll either see five 3 and outs or a point flurry. And those flurries decrease when facing halfway competent defenses.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 1:04 pm to TRUERockyTop
It will all come down to recruiting period. He doesn’t run an old school offense so if he recruits well TN will be competitive eventually.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 1:20 pm to TRUERockyTop
Heupel is 2-0 vs Lane Kiffin. Hey, looking for some sunshine here
Posted on 1/27/21 at 1:28 pm to TRUERockyTop
Yes he was the OC. But again, Lock could drop it in a bucket from 60 yards. Heupal didn't have an innovative offense, he just told Lock where to throw it and Locks talent made it happen. The question is what can Heupals offense do without Lock type talent. It didn't work with OU's talent.
There is 1 QB recruiting concern. It's well documented by SEC announcers that Heupal didn't teach Lock NFL QB skills. He taught Lock to read only half the field, and only 1 progression. You better believe that's going to be used against him by other coaches in the living rooms. Hell, Dooley used it to get Lock to return to Mizzou for 1 more year. He promised to teach stuff that Heupal ignored.
Who knows. Harbaugh looked perfect for Michigan, Frost was a no brainer for Nebraska, hows that working out? Back in the day, who would guessed or dreamed about Schnellinberger and a small Miami private school that was about to drop its football program.
There is 1 QB recruiting concern. It's well documented by SEC announcers that Heupal didn't teach Lock NFL QB skills. He taught Lock to read only half the field, and only 1 progression. You better believe that's going to be used against him by other coaches in the living rooms. Hell, Dooley used it to get Lock to return to Mizzou for 1 more year. He promised to teach stuff that Heupal ignored.
Who knows. Harbaugh looked perfect for Michigan, Frost was a no brainer for Nebraska, hows that working out? Back in the day, who would guessed or dreamed about Schnellinberger and a small Miami private school that was about to drop its football program.
This post was edited on 1/27/21 at 2:55 pm
Posted on 1/27/21 at 2:24 pm to TRUERockyTop
was bailed out by an old friend
hired as an SEC OC
leaves his old friend before that coaches first bowl as a HC
really shitty move
hired as an SEC OC
leaves his old friend before that coaches first bowl as a HC
really shitty move
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