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re: List of Coaches to Win a National Championship & Leave On Own For Another Opportunity
Posted on 8/9/18 at 5:23 pm to scrooster
Posted on 8/9/18 at 5:23 pm to scrooster
You could think that but he did win a Natty. More like he put his voodoo on Knoxville when he left just like he put his voodoo on Johnny when he stole his job.
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Posted on 8/9/18 at 5:23 pm to RolltidePA
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If you want to go really old-school Wallace Wade left Alabama for Duke.
Lou Holtz quit Notre Dame and moved on to other places.
John Robinson won a title at USC and moved on.
This isn’t as uncommon as it seems.
Paul Deitzel also left LSU for Army
Posted on 8/9/18 at 5:26 pm to TexasAg13
Paul Dietzel
Posted on 8/9/18 at 5:27 pm to scrooster
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Anyone else think Phat Phil might be carrying a jinx around with him? I mean like a curse even?
Phil won a lot of games and a national title. Hard to say he carries a curse or jinx
Posted on 8/9/18 at 5:28 pm to lsufball19
Sorry you beat me to it.
Posted on 8/9/18 at 5:30 pm to Rohan Gravy
Johnny Majors nattied at Pitt..but Sherrill did great especially with Marino
This post was edited on 8/9/18 at 5:33 pm
Posted on 8/9/18 at 6:28 pm to TexasAg13
Spurrier and Saban left for the NFL.
How far are you going back? Majors left Pitt after winning a title and took the Tennessee job.
Schnellenberger left Miami after winning it all in 83 for a USFL job that never materialized.
How far are you going back? Majors left Pitt after winning a title and took the Tennessee job.
Schnellenberger left Miami after winning it all in 83 for a USFL job that never materialized.
Posted on 8/9/18 at 6:31 pm to TexasAg13
Scott Frost
Posted on 8/9/18 at 6:32 pm to I Bleed Garnet
Dabo
Posted on 8/9/18 at 6:33 pm to theGarnetWay
bear bryant won a retroactive natty at ky in 1950 and left for tam and bama
Posted on 8/9/18 at 6:40 pm to VADawg
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Jimmy Johnson, Barry Switzer, Dennis Erickson, Howard Schnellenberger, etc...
Switzer may not have technically been fired, but he didn’t exactly leave on his own either. OU was involved in several scandals at the end of his tenure and he resigned under pressure when he was only about 50. He didn’t resurface until Jerry Jones’ bizarre decision to hire him with the Cowboys in ‘94 (after being out of coaching five years) after parting ways with Jimmy Johnson. No one else would touch him.
This post was edited on 8/9/18 at 6:42 pm
Posted on 8/9/18 at 6:54 pm to lsufball19
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Paul Deitzel also left LSU for Army
... and also ended-up at SC.
We've had three National Championship coaches here at SC and all three have made us better and advanced our mission during the course of their stay.
Posted on 8/9/18 at 7:05 pm to scrooster
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We've had three National Championship coaches here at SC and all three have made us better and advanced our mission during the course of their stay.
Not that it matters....but I’m pulling for you.
Georgia caould trip up a bit with our help, and you can win the East
Posted on 8/9/18 at 7:16 pm to RD Dawg
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Pretty sure he got the largest HC contract in CFB history when he jumped to A&M after pitt
6 years $1.7 million in 1982. That was huge, and I think college footballs first million dollar contract. I could be wrong about that though.
My parents went to Pitt; the program Never really recovered after he left. The school admin is to blame mostly, they saw where things were going financially and decided that football isn’t what they wanted to be known for and didn’t want to compete. The program took a huge dive for years.
Posted on 8/9/18 at 7:19 pm to Rohan Gravy
Saban's mistake was not going to the Bears and instead Miami. Miami's roster was garbage outside of Taylor and his brother in law. Saban would've done damage if he was HC of the SD Chargers.
Posted on 8/9/18 at 7:22 pm to TexasAg13
i think for accuracy, you should put the school they left from and where they left to
Posted on 8/9/18 at 7:47 pm to TexasAg13
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Spurrier's decision was likely the wrong one, while Saban clearly made the correct long-term decision.
I want you to marinate on that for a moment.
Spurrier and Saban had somewhat similar paths with a few significant differences.
Spurrier was at his first SEC job much longer as it was his alma mater and he built it into a juggernaut that might have done even more (a scary prospect) if not for being in the same state with FSU and Miami.
Saban made LSU very respectable but he didn't stay long and they certainly were not the juggernaut that Spurrier made Florida into for much of the 90s. Certainly Saban had that one year where everything clicked and he laid the groundwork so that LSU could continue to be very successful.
In the NFL, very similar paths. 2 not so memorable seasons and they were done. Spurrier took a year off before taking the Carolina job whereas Saban went straight from Miami to Bama. Though I think Nick could have been successful in the NFL with his connections and experience. But it wasn't to be.
Now... and here is where my point lies:
Spurrier did what very few could have done at South Carolina. After several years of struggling to break .500, he had 3 11 win seasons in a row. At South Effing Carolina. Not Bama. Not LSU. Not even Aggy. He finished his tenure at Carolina with 22 more wins than any other coach in school history. And he still has 52 more wins than any coach in Florida history, winning 81.7% of his games.
So yes, Spurrier took a job that was far from ideal when he came back from the NFL. Saban certainly lined up one hell of a job and recognized the opportunity for what it was. I'm sure Spurrier would have love to return to Gainesville to be heralded like a king but it didn't happen. He made the best of his choice though.
Saban could probably string together 3 11-2 seasons at South Carolina eventually. But the list of coaches who could is very short.
So FFS let's not undersell what Spurrier did at Carolina.
I'm sure if Saban gave his honest opinion, he'd probably give OBC his due. And I say all this as someone who hated Spurrier with the fury of a thousand suns throughout his entire coaching stint at Florida.
Now as for Jimbo, he certainly didn't choose a project like Carolina by taking the A&M job. But it's also not on the same level as Bama. Could it be? Of course. But it hasn't ever been, isn't now and isn't there yet. And the #1 reason Nick Saban took the Bama job was because he knew the program didn't need selling or rebuilding. If Mike Dubose could win a SEC title, what more proof do you need?
And what Saban has done at Bama is turn them into the same kind of juggernaut that Florida was in the 90s and Bama already had been under Bear. You can't do that at just any program. And that is precisely what Saban figured when he said Yes to Bama. He knew the potential was still there and he seized the opportunity.
Can Jimbo be certain A&M is that kind of program? Was Spurrier certain of that when he took the Florida job? Did Saban think LSU had that kind of potential?
Because there are programs you can win a national title at and then there are programs you can build an elite juggernaut at. I'd like to believe LSU can be a program like that with the right coach. I'm sure Aggies think Jimbo will do that for them. Florida and Bama fans actually know it's possible because they've been there. The rest of us are just hoping.
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Jimbo is yet to be decided.
On this much, I agree. Let the man coach a season or five. We need to see if he can actually beat LSU.
You may now resume your regularly scheduled trolling.
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