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re: Kirby's transition to Head Coach

Posted on 4/19/16 at 12:35 pm to
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
16968 posts
Posted on 4/19/16 at 12:35 pm to
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Also there are reasons Saban and others are successful at Bama:

1) at Bama there is an unlimited football budget; including gold plated (really over the top) football facilities

2) no admissions office interference (also Bama is one of only three SEC schools, along with Ole Miss and MS State) that accept Ds as acceptance for high school students and junior college transfers

3) The Bama head football coach reports to no one, there is no higher authority at Bama unless there are severe ethics violations or loses to Auburn

These conditions will not follow Smart to UGA.


Posted by redandblackattack
Spring Hill florida
Member since Nov 2012
2193 posts
Posted on 4/19/16 at 12:36 pm to
Like...frick your opinion piece man...You're like,,not even a UGA fan...

Yo opinion is unneeded, unwanted, and undesired..


Osmosis? Really??I don't think that means what you think it means OP....but yo brain is more than semi-permeable to solvents...this is obvious...GotDamn Baw you Stupid...
Posted by Kneehigh
Low Country
Member since Nov 2012
13240 posts
Posted on 4/19/16 at 12:39 pm to
Posted by UFMatt
Gator Nation - Everywhere
Member since Oct 2010
11445 posts
Posted on 4/19/16 at 2:11 pm to
My perspective as a fan of UGs rival. I don't think UG will be any better with Smart than the were with Richt. They were pretty darn good to win 9-10 games per year and will probably continue to be pretty darn good. I don't fear the hire as much as I would had they landed a big time head coach, but time will tell. The question will be, "how patient will UG fans be with the hire?" I do still expect to continue the winning % UF has against them that has existed since the head Dawg Vince Dooley retired. What is that about 21-5 since 1990? Here's to a great SEC rivalry.
This post was edited on 4/19/16 at 2:12 pm
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 4/19/16 at 2:12 pm to
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3) The Bama head football coach reports to no one, there is no higher authority at Bama unless there are severe ethics violations or loses to Auburn



This could be a really bad thing with the wrong coach
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32857 posts
Posted on 4/19/16 at 5:25 pm to
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don't think UG will be any better with Smart than the were with Rich


It's not a particularly high bar over the last half of career.
Posted by BasedGator
Member since Sep 2012
391 posts
Posted on 4/19/16 at 8:36 pm to
Smart is Muschamp 2.0
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32857 posts
Posted on 4/19/16 at 8:46 pm to
Tell me more because on the surface this is a point a liquor drunk 15 year would try to make.
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 4/19/16 at 11:01 pm to
He's WM 2.0, the recruiting will drop off once he's exposed
Posted by 12thFairway
Member since May 2015
745 posts
Posted on 4/20/16 at 12:23 am to
Kirby is a good guy and a good coach. There is no magic formula to determine his future success. Opinions are all we have based on his past experience.

The thing that troubles me about Kirby is he's never been responsible for the success or failure of any team and he waited so long to try. He didn't have a burning desire to run his own show. He waited, and waited, and waited, and waited patiently - until a job came along he couldn't pass up - his dream job. Now he has his dream job and the most perfect set of head coaching circumstances any coach in history has ever had. Richt left Georgia with quality athletes and depth. If Kirby can't come out of the gate with back to back 10 or 11 win seasons he'll never be a success as a Head Coach. Kirby has to cover all the bases all the time and keep his staff on edge worrying about their job security if they don't perform at the absolute highest level every single day. I don't see that intensity in Kirby. There are a million other things required to be a great head coach but Kirby hasn't been tested at any of them yet and there's no history to review for answers.

If Kirby fails it will be because he doesn't have the independence, intensity, and unyielding desire to win more than the other guy he's facing. I don't know the answer. My instincts are impressed by his work ethic and teamwork not his leadership - and leadership it what is required to win Championships.

Being a great Head Coach is a lonely job. Everyone is around to share success but nobody sticks around when you lose. I don't see an independent streak in Kirby - the independent streak you must have to be a top notch head coach.
This post was edited on 4/20/16 at 12:29 am
Posted by Glory, Glory
Pawleys Island, SC
Member since Nov 2012
4498 posts
Posted on 4/20/16 at 6:31 am to
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If Kirby fails it will be because he doesn't have the independence, intensity, and unyielding desire to win more than the other guy he's facing.


What in the frick are you talking about? How do you know he doesn’t have the desire to win more games? He came from Alabama, which has raped every team the last 9 years.

quote:

I don't know the answer


You don’t know the answer, but your argument is that you DO know the answer

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the independent streak you must have to be a top notch head coach.


What does an "independent streak" look like?

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he waited so long to try. He didn't have a burning desire to run his own show. He waited, and waited, and waited, and waited patiently


He is 40 years old! It’s not like he has been an assistant for 30 years and is taking over his first gig at 70.

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I don't see that intensity in Kirby




If intensity was such a major factor in winning, this guy would be a good coach




Just sit down and stop responding. You’re argument is so flawed even a casual football fan could break it down. Stick to golf
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 4/20/16 at 6:37 am to
quote:

The entire SEC will be better off when Saban retires.


No we won't. Saban is who is pushing the rest of the SEC to get better. Without Saban, LSU would not have won their National Championship....Auburn MIGHT not have....the only other team that could probably argue they would have won is Florida.
Posted by G8RnGA
Under a rock..........
Member since Jun 2009
5129 posts
Posted on 4/20/16 at 6:43 am to
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Being a great Head Coach is a lonely job


I'm wonwey, so so wonwey.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30599 posts
Posted on 4/20/16 at 8:47 am to
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quote:
The entire SEC will be better off when Saban retires.


No we won't. Saban is who is pushing the rest of the SEC to get better. Without Saban, LSU would not have won their National Championship....Auburn MIGHT not have....the only other team that could probably argue they would have won is Florida.

You're absolutely correct. That other poster must have been a democrat!
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32857 posts
Posted on 4/20/16 at 9:35 am to
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He's WM 2.0, the recruiting will drop off once he's exposed



Mcelwain is a much closer comparison to muschamp as the recruiting is already weakened.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32857 posts
Posted on 4/20/16 at 9:53 am to
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If Kirby can't come out of the gate with back to back 10 or 11 win seasons he'll never be a success as a Head Coach


Thanks for this further insight into the mind of a retard.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32857 posts
Posted on 4/20/16 at 9:55 am to
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He waited, and waited, and waited, and waited patiently - until a job came along he couldn't pass up - his dream job.


Based on Sabans advice and richts history at fsu. Smart move. Too bad it takes above minimum intelligence to see it.
Posted by G8RnGA
Under a rock..........
Member since Jun 2009
5129 posts
Posted on 4/20/16 at 9:57 am to
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Mcelwain is a much closer comparison to muschamp as the recruiting is already weakened.



Just because you are responding to a stupid post doesn't mean you should make an equally ignorant post. Mac may not be the world's best recruiter but he is 100X the HC Muschamp is.
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 4/20/16 at 10:00 am to
He walked into a mess. Although his hires weren't grand he can coach. Will Grier really fricked US bad. If he doesn't have a top 5 class then I'll panic.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32857 posts
Posted on 4/20/16 at 10:04 am to
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quote:
Mcelwain is a much closer comparison to muschamp as the recruiting is already weakened.



Just because you are responding to a stupid post doesn't mean you should make an equally ignorant post. Mac may not be the world's best recruiter but he is 100X the HC Muschamp is.


Uf should be easy to recruit to. It's dumb for you to say otherwise.
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