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re: Kirby Smart is officially a 1/3 of the way through Richt's tenor. When is a NC required?

Posted on 5/27/20 at 6:57 pm to
Posted by Nitro Express
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Posted on 5/27/20 at 6:57 pm to
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With Saban’s decline and irrelevance since 2015, except for that Hail Mary to steal the title from GA (equally irrelevant)


Muh BAMA irrelevant except for that National Championship is 2017.

LSU fans ladies and gentlemen. The BAMA Derangement Syndrome (BDS) is real.
Posted by mhc4tigers
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 5/27/20 at 7:02 pm to
NC are very difficult for the best coaches.. injuries.. breaks.. and everyone is trying to win
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 5/27/20 at 7:11 pm to
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How many guys skipped the Sugar Bowl? In the previous one, even the guys who showed up had little interest in the game



Side effect of the playoff era. I already told you that.
Posted by Mithridates6
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 5/27/20 at 7:51 pm to
Imo it is possible to have players "buy in" enough to where few will sit out or sandbag it like against Texas. Like the other guy said, Kirby is still learning on the job though
Posted by Capstone2017
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Posted on 5/27/20 at 8:14 pm to
Going to the national championship every year except for one is not irrelevant. In 2016 Alabama went and lost at the last second, in 2017 they won, in 2018 they went, and they had two under 7 points losses in 2019.
In what world is that irrelevant?
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 5/27/20 at 8:20 pm to
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RD Dawg




You really lack common sense
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 5/27/20 at 8:23 pm to
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Imo it is possible to have players "buy in" enough to where few will sit out or sandbag it like against Texas.


Not really in this environment, especially the one UGA faced in 2018.

Its a smart business decision for a 1st rounder to skip a non-playoff bowl game.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
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Posted on 5/27/20 at 8:25 pm to
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nd they had two under 7 points losses in 2019


Not one quality win also. The decline is real
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
32479 posts
Posted on 5/27/20 at 8:27 pm to
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lol wtf are you talking about? Who could UGA get right now that’s better than Smart?
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Orgeron.


Oh wait...y'all would be too proud to hire someone with his previous record.


Lulz.
This post was edited on 5/27/20 at 8:31 pm
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 5/27/20 at 8:30 pm to
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You really lack common sense


Means sooo much coming from an LSU fan.

God you guys are triggered.

Sorry to bore you with facts.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 5/27/20 at 8:39 pm to
ETA: sorry.


Thought I was responding to a dawg post.



Was a gump.


See below.
This post was edited on 5/27/20 at 8:43 pm
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 5/27/20 at 8:41 pm to
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Going to the national championship every year except for one is not irrelevant. In 2016 Alabama went and lost at the last second, in 2017 they won, in 2018 they went, and they had two under 7 points losses in 2019.
In what world is that irrelevant?






In a Gump's world.
Posted by 3rddownonthe8
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2011
5212 posts
Posted on 5/27/20 at 8:42 pm to
WRONG!!!

RICHT COACHED 15 FULL SEASONS

KIRBY HAS COACHED 4... SO IF WINS 1 THIS YEAR ITS IN 1/3 OF THE TIME...COME BACK NEXT YEAR AND ASK!
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 5/27/20 at 8:44 pm to
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WRONG!!!

RICHT COACHED 15 FULL SEASONS

KIRBY HAS COACHED 4... SO IF WINS 1 THIS YEAR ITS IN 1/3 OF THE TIME...COME BACK NEXT YEAR AND ASK!


YAY!!!!


HOW LONG DOES HE GDT BITCH!
Posted by 3rddownonthe8
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2011
5212 posts
Posted on 5/27/20 at 8:52 pm to
I'm saying that experience counts, no matter where you coach. You make mistakes in your first HC job. Just because KS got his at UGA doesn't mean he doesn't have to learn how to be a head coach.

Took Dabo 8 1/2 seasons at Clemson.

You really think Saban would have won a title so quickly if Alabama was his first HC job?

What about O at LSU?

To just ignore all the facts is short sighted.
Posted by dhuck20
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Member since Oct 2012
20335 posts
Posted on 5/27/20 at 8:58 pm to
Dabo is a great example. Dude was a dud early in his career. They were a complete joke (think WVU orange bowl).

I’m sure the thought of him winning 2 NCs in 3 years was laughable at that point. For some reason Kirby isn’t afforded that same patience.
Posted by Mithridates6
Member since Oct 2019
8220 posts
Posted on 5/27/20 at 9:00 pm to
I thinking hiring Venables was the turning point for Dabo. Before that he was seen as a glorified assistant coach. Maybe Kirby has found his equivalent on the offensive staff? We'll see.
Posted by Capstone2017
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Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 5/27/20 at 9:19 pm to
You mean besides the 2 national championships?
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
67895 posts
Posted on 5/27/20 at 9:27 pm to
All I’m saying is it’s apples and oranges when trying to compare Kirbys first 4 years to Saban and O. I don’t think it’s reasonable to try to compare Saban taking over Michigan state program that had won 14 games total the prior 4 years to him taking over. Compare that to Kirby taking over a major power 5 sec program that averaged around 10 wins the 4 years prior to Kirby taking over.

You get what I’m saying?

And experience does matter. Coach O would tell you he did a lot of things wrong when he was first a coach at ole miss. As coaches get experience they evolve, Kirby is still in the early part of his career as a head coach so I imagine he will be doing things different than when he first started.
This post was edited on 5/27/20 at 9:30 pm
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
32479 posts
Posted on 5/27/20 at 10:09 pm to
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And experience does matter. Coach O would tell you he did a lot of things wrong when he was first a coach at ole miss. As coaches get experience they evolve, Kirby is still in the early part of his career as a head coach so I imagine he will be doing things different than when he first started.



Bad comparison.


O failed miserably before he learned his lesson.


Kirby is just coming up short.


There is nothing to suggest he will understand why he will keep failing. He will just tweak the little shite around him, but not himself.


And UGA fans will allow it
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