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re: Kirby Smart is officially a 1/3 of the way through Richt's tenor. When is a NC required?
Posted on 5/27/20 at 5:36 pm to magildachunks
Posted on 5/27/20 at 5:36 pm to magildachunks
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they have everything necessary to compete for and play for national titles as far as recruiting, facilities, money, etc.
Except the culture.
There's a culture problem there.
Like Texas.
Missouri made a great move to hire Drinkwitz and he is the one I believe can change all that what was lacking all those years.
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Posted on 5/27/20 at 5:39 pm to TrueLefty
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Missouri made a great move to hire Drinkwitz and he is the one I believe can change all that what was lacking all those years
Gotta agree.
He's a proven winner at a small non-powerhouse.
Career is most comparable to early Saban.
Posted on 5/27/20 at 5:40 pm to magildachunks
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And here's part of the culture problem.
lol wtf are you talking about? Who could UGA get right now that’s better than Smart?
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The fans defend being the bridesmaid, but don't demand to be the bride.
Fans just have realistic expectations. What has UGA ever done for fans to think they should win the natty every year? ND and UT thought that, look at them.
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LSU was laughed at for hiring O. But we also let it be known that contention was not good enough and he understood that.
O has been largely mediocre outside of 1 year where he had Brady and a heisman winning QB. Sort of like Chizik.
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Do you see the difference?
I see that you have an extra chromosome. In what world is 4 a third of 15?
This post was edited on 5/27/20 at 5:46 pm
Posted on 5/27/20 at 5:47 pm to atlanta917
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Since Smart’s tenure plenty of other schools have had the same benefits and have done worse than UGA.
It isnt just about Smart's tenure.
Its about the 40 years of no championship and so far Smart hasnt won one so he just gets lumped in. If Georgia had won a recent championship you wouldn't hear any of this I'd wager.
Posted on 5/27/20 at 5:47 pm to magildachunks
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Except the culture.
There's a culture problem there.
WTF does this even mean?
I'd say there was a "culture" pre Kirby and with the old school president but it's certainly not the case now.
Posted on 5/27/20 at 5:48 pm to SidewalkTiger
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It isnt just about Smart's tenure.
It’s not? Are we pretending Smart is responsible for Richt’s tenure as well?
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Its about the 40 years of no championship and so far Smart hasnt won one so he just gets lumped in. If Georgia had won a recent championship you wouldn't hear any of this I'd wager.
Is Mazlahn a good coach because Chizik won a natty? Is Mullen a good coach because Meyer did?
This post was edited on 5/27/20 at 5:51 pm
Posted on 5/27/20 at 5:50 pm to RD Dawg
The culture problem imo is that Smart lets these highly touted recruits run roughshod. How many guys skipped the Sugar Bowl? In the previous one, even the guys who showed up had little interest in the game
Posted on 5/27/20 at 5:58 pm to Mithridates6
That’s a terrible tale.
Posted on 5/27/20 at 5:58 pm to magildachunks
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This season marks a third of Richt's tenure. It's not a hard concept to grasp.
When it’s over, yes.
Posted on 5/27/20 at 6:02 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
Why? I know players sit out for lots of teams, but UGA seemed different the last few times. Recruits now have huge egos and I'm not sure Kirby knows how to handle that. I'll defend him overall as a coach though. You can't have NC or bust expectations
Posted on 5/27/20 at 6:08 pm to Mithridates6
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Why? I know players sit out for lots of teams, but UGA seemed different the last few times. Recruits now have huge egos and I'm not sure Kirby knows how to handle that. I'll defend him overall as a coach though. You can't have NC or bust expectations
Just an FYI, some where told to stay home due to their attitudes. We had 13 miss the game, two were guys who chose not to play due to NFL, 6 undisclosed (two of those rumored academics), 5 injured. Kirby himself seemed to indicate some players were feeling full of themselves.
Posted on 5/27/20 at 6:11 pm to atlanta917
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It’s not? Are we pretending Smart is responsible for Richt’s tenure as well?
I'm saying he's taking some of the heat for what Georgia has been.
I didnt say it was right.
Posted on 5/27/20 at 6:11 pm to Dawgfanman
Good on him then. Hopefully he's learned enough from Saban who's best in the biz at that kind of thing
Posted on 5/27/20 at 6:14 pm to Mithridates6
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The culture problem imo is that Smart lets these highly touted recruits run roughshod
What? How are n the world is he "letting" anyone run "roughshod" when he sits their arse down?And I'm glad he did and he won the game handily.
Quay Walker and Divaad Wilson were the only highly recruited of the 6 who didn't go to the Sugar Bowl for "undisclosed reasons" and who knows if it was grades or drug tests.
Others missed because they declared for the draft or injured.
WGAS if a future NFL draft pick sits out non playoff bowl game?
It happens at every school including LSU and Bama.
I'd have done the same thing.
Posted on 5/27/20 at 6:17 pm to Mithridates6
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Good on him then. Hopefully he's learned enough from Saban who's best in the biz at that kind of thing
I thought the Sugar was one of his better coaching jobs, especially with an injured Swift, two starting tackles sitting out due to academics, all the WR injuries, etc. he had the team prepared, motivated and they won against a decent highly motivated opponent. Pretty much the opposite of the prior year.
Kirby still learning on the job. He’s reached an important juncture that has tripped up many promising careers as he replaces more coaches and changes scheme after his first seniors leave. Richt got lost in all that and we never really found our stride again except a few moments/seasons.
Posted on 5/27/20 at 6:17 pm to SidewalkTiger
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I'm saying he's taking some of the heat for what Georgia has been.
I didnt say it was right.
I gotcha. Mark Richt certainly underachieved. Not fair to say Kirby has at this point.
Posted on 5/27/20 at 6:23 pm to RD Dawg
To me, someone whose commitment to the program is conditional (playoff or bust) is not worth as much as someone who buys in unconditionally. Maybe I'm old-fashioned
This post was edited on 5/27/20 at 6:41 pm
Posted on 5/27/20 at 6:28 pm to Mithridates6
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To me, someone whose commitment to the program is conditional (playoff or bust) is not the kind of character I would look for regardless of talent. Maybe I'm old-fashioned
So a guy like Fournette or Greedy?
Posted on 5/27/20 at 6:33 pm to Mithridates6
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me, someone whose commitment to the program is conditional (playoff or bust) is not the kind of character I would look for regardless of talent
No coach in their right mind would turn down the talent that sat out our bowl game.I don't think Swift,Wilson,JR Reed or Thomas had character issues.
It doesn't exactly thrill me but some of these guys are looking at life changing 1st rd money.
Posted on 5/27/20 at 6:39 pm to Dawgfanman
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So a guy like Fournette or Greedy?
Yes, my wording was not the best. But I hold D Guice or D White who played "meaningless" bowl games in higher esteem than G Williams (Fournette had injury concerns). We probably lose the Fiesta to UCF without White and don't have the same kind of momentum going into the offseason
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