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re: Kirby Smart Crying On The "Deterioration of Football"
Posted on 8/15/24 at 12:19 am to alabamahammer
Posted on 8/15/24 at 12:19 am to alabamahammer
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modern day college football sucks.
Pining for those days when saban and smart could sic the NCAA on opposing teams?
Poor babies.
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Posted on 8/15/24 at 12:29 am to tigerbait17
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Kirby and Saban are the same. Now that they can't stack the chips in their favor they feel helpless.
Yep
Posted on 8/15/24 at 12:58 am to Lucado
I am not sure WTF Kirby is talking about. High-school football is more serious than it's ever been. You've got 14 year olds training with NFL players in off-season. You've got guys going to tons of camps that didn't used to exist. You've got high-schools with D1 sized stadiums and massive training facilities. The kids are more prepared than ever. So, again, WTF is he talking about?
Posted on 8/15/24 at 1:31 am to Mizz-SEC
Fans: I wish coaches would give us more than coach speak and talk about the things that go on.
Also Fans: OMG, why is he talking about the things that go on like it's only happening to him. He's always crying and never thinks about my team in the context of what he says.
Also Fans: OMG, why is he talking about the things that go on like it's only happening to him. He's always crying and never thinks about my team in the context of what he says.
Posted on 8/15/24 at 1:38 am to Mizz-SEC
Wait so is he against the transfer portal? Doesn't seem like it since he's "taken" depth from other schools in his own conference.
Posted on 8/15/24 at 3:37 am to AUstar
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I am not sure WTF Kirby is talking about. High-school football is more serious than it's ever been. You've got 14 year olds training with NFL players in off-season. You've got guys going to tons of camps that didn't used to exist. You've got high-schools with D1 sized stadiums and massive training facilities. The kids are more prepared than ever. So, again, WTF is he talking about?
He probably doesn't like competition. Look at Ole Miss and Missouri and others that are right there. Imagine in 3 years from now there will be no more top dogs running the show.
This post was edited on 8/15/24 at 3:40 am
Posted on 8/15/24 at 4:46 am to Mizz-SEC
College football is in trouble and has been in trouble since fat cats have been turned completely loose on bidding wars. NIL without guardrails is creating all different types of unintended consequences. Depth in the system players were trained for is part of that. And every team is feeling that to one degree or another. Most everyone readily agrees that this version of college football is not sustainable and then we get these stupid threads that allow the unwashed to howl into the night like they actually won something. A quick look at the new preseason poll suggests they've won nothing.
Unregulated greed has never been a successful business model that has staying power. And Hugh Freeze, Lane Kiffin, Brian Kelly, and Eli Drinkwitz are just as frustrated by it as Kirby Smart.
Unregulated greed has never been a successful business model that has staying power. And Hugh Freeze, Lane Kiffin, Brian Kelly, and Eli Drinkwitz are just as frustrated by it as Kirby Smart.
Posted on 8/15/24 at 5:34 am to ugasickem
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Kirby Smart isn’t the only one crying about the deterioration of college football, if you want to be serious
Being serious, the biggest difference (at least according to Eli Drinkwitz) is you have to be continuously re-recruiting your own roster along with working the portal and traditional recruiting. The level of work required has increased exponentially so it's becoming a young man's game. Or at least an energetic man's game. And as what happened with Oklahoma transfer Cayden Green, if you don't deliver on your promises they can and will leave.
If older HCs have enough stashed away I guess they can retire, but if they like their millions they're going to work longer and harder.
Posted on 8/15/24 at 5:56 am to Mizz-SEC
He is spot on.
Posted on 8/15/24 at 5:59 am to Mizz-SEC
Kirby Smart has earned the right to “cry”, bitch and complain about anything college football. Your coach not so much.
Posted on 8/15/24 at 6:04 am to FireDanMullen
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I don’t think he’s discussing injuries here
He’s talking about injuries in relation to numbers and depth. The change in roster to a set number and how the portal and injuries lessen depth and development.
And it’s a silly argument. This will increase depth and development at it will move non scholarship guys to a practice squad (which is in theory where they should be) and remove the grey shirt/blue shirt nonsense. It’s also going to mitigate larger schools using NIL to hide roster numbers.
He’s upset an advantage is going away and using injuries to straw man his point.
Posted on 8/15/24 at 6:11 am to deeprig9
quote:No. It’s bad minor league football played by a collection of 1099 temps who are already working on their next landing spot mid-season.
Is he wrong?
Posted on 8/15/24 at 6:35 am to Mizz-SEC
In short, he is saying the same thing 99% of all posters on here is saying? That's news to you?
Posted on 8/15/24 at 6:39 am to tigerbait17
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Kirby and Saban are the same. Now that they can't stack the chips in their favor they feel helpless.
How did they do that? By working harder than everyone else and recruiting well?
But you obviously missed his point.....it's the same point everyone has been making here. Transfers and NIL. Not surprising that it went over your head, though.
Posted on 8/15/24 at 6:50 am to tigerbait17
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Kirby and Saban are the same. Now that they can't stack the chips in their favor they feel helpless.
I don't think they feel helpless, and I am not sure how much of the same they really are.
For all of the work placed into building and sustaining a quality program, I genuinely think some coaches, like Saban, saw the personal growth of young men into adults with better options post-college and post-football as a large motivator to keep grinding.
Winning also matters. But, that matters for every HC. NIL and the change in structure, control, attitudes, and roster management have forever changed the sport. The HCs who can't adjust will scream at the sky or move on from CFB one way or another.
It's a tough situation for coaches to be in when they have no predictability and less loyalty from their players. If dynasties are to be had going forward, it's going to $$$ based more than traditional college football culture. $$$ has always been a factor, but the dynamics are on a whole other level in today's game.
A future with a lot more 1 and 2 year wonders is more likely to lie ahead. It's like MLB. Big money markets will sustain a higher degree of success, but the Florida Marlins can buy a championship team every once in a while before having to dump the roster the year after to save $$$.
Posted on 8/15/24 at 6:57 am to Che Boludo
quote:Disagree. There’s a very small group of schools, even in P4, that believe buying a $20 mil+ roster is worth it for even 1-2 years. That’ll cull things into a handful of competitive programs willing to pay the steep buy-in. We’re seeing that separation now.
A future with a lot more 1 and 2 year wonders is more likely to lie ahead.
Posted on 8/15/24 at 7:25 am to Smokeyone
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Smokeyone
Totally not UGA obsessed, just always in the first few comments on every UGA thread.
This post was edited on 8/15/24 at 7:26 am
Posted on 8/15/24 at 7:34 am to BevoBucks
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Disagree. There’s a very small group of schools, even in P4, that believe buying a $20 mil+ roster is worth it for even 1-2 years. That’ll cull things into a handful of competitive programs willing to pay the steep buy-in. We’re seeing that separation now.
I do think he might be speaking about an ole miss or UTk having a flukey run in the playoffs.
Posted on 8/15/24 at 7:36 am to Miznoz
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bluebloods are the only ones with impacted depth, everyone else has more now.
This is definitely not true. Everyone else also has their top players getting poached by blue bloods.
If anything, Georgia is in a better position than pretty much anyone, which Kirby even says later in the interview.
The idea that the transfer portal is going to make it easier for a historically mediocre program to win a title is a fantasy.
Posted on 8/15/24 at 7:42 am to Smokeyone
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He’s talking about injuries in relation to numbers and depth. The change in roster to a set number and how the portal and injuries lessen depth and development.
He’s only talking about injuries in the sense that with everyone’s depth being less experienced and less coached, injuries are more likely to cause performance to deteriorate than before. I don’t see how that is controversial.
This quote is not specific to Georgia. Watch the games. The level of play, especially on the OL and on defense, is pretty poor in college football. It’s gotten to the point that just having a team that tackles well means you’re probably a top 10ish defense in the country. Tackling well used to be taken for granted.
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