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re: Kirby Smart analysis by CBS college football editor
Posted on 10/15/19 at 11:44 am to John Milner
Posted on 10/15/19 at 11:44 am to John Milner
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which is kind of weird because as the Alabama D.C. the offenses he had the most problems with were the spread or RPO types. He was generally very good vs the more conservative offense. So what does he run at UGA? More conservative offense.
Prior to being a HC, being with saban is all kirby has known. This style of ball worked fine in the late aughts so I can only assume it's what kirby is comfortable with. But after saban lost to gus a few times, then manziel, then ole miss a few times, then OSU, he realized he needed to change and he did. Waht I have zero clue on is why kirby hasn't realized this and also change.
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Posted on 10/15/19 at 11:45 am to Soda City Spur
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Kirby would be crazy not to run a pro style offense with the O-Line and RB talent he has. UGA's offense is limited this year by not having a deep threat at WR. No amount of coaching is going to make an opponent respect the deep ball when UGA doesn't have the personnel to pose a vertical threat. UGA is essentially playing on a 35 yard field at all times.
the problem is when your run game isn't working, or when your OC decides to only run up the center's arse into a 9 man box. When that happens, as it does frequently, you have to spread the defense out and give yourself some room, which we don't do. I'd be ok running our pro style offense if the playcalling had some creativity to it, which it does not.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 11:46 am to Tidemeister
Mack Brown 2.0.
Good news is Mack made it to NC games & won one. You'll need a dual option freak @ QB to offset the avg game day decision making (see VY), can't run off another Fields.
Good news is Mack made it to NC games & won one. You'll need a dual option freak @ QB to offset the avg game day decision making (see VY), can't run off another Fields.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 11:58 am to WG_Dawg
Fair enough. The play calling was inefficient to say the least. The edges were wide open for Swift and White to hurt us bad.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 12:07 pm to Soda City Spur
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Kirby would be crazy not to run a pro style offense with the O-Line and RB talent he has
And didn’t have the lead in the 2nd half against Bama in two straight championship games?
I think he was too conservative with the lead and made bad decisions in those games, but the general offensive philosophy was good enough.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 12:08 pm to Tidemeister
Muschamp is the better coach by far and that was before the win this Saturday. Smart is a terrible head coach.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 12:17 pm to drexyl
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Muschamp is the better coach by far and that was before the win this Saturday
I'd love to hear what you base this on. He has a .500 record at SC and his best season had 4 losses.
"But it's hard to win at SC! Kirby gets the benefit of coaching at GA!"
Hmmm..good thing muschamp coached at Florida too to make things more apples to apples then I guess.
Went 28-21 at UF and only 2 games over .500 in conference play. Never won the division and lost AT LEAST FIVE games in 3 of the 4 seasons he was there.
But please, by all means, let us know why he's better.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 12:21 pm to boXerrumble
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Exactly what everyone has said.
Elite recruiter
Average-Good Gameday Coach
So basically Nick Saban with 20 years of his career left to grow. Look at Saban's early years at Michigan State and LSU. He recruited very well and built those programs up but there were definite hiccups along the way. Let Kirby learn how to perfect running an overall program and how to find the right coordinators and it will pay big dividends. He's already good enough to be a couple bad luck/bad in game coaching decisions from 2 national titles.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 12:24 pm to uway
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And didn’t have the lead in the 2nd half against Bama in two straight championship games?
I think he was too conservative with the lead and made bad decisions in those games, but the general offensive philosophy was good enough.
Again, a Saban clone. Saban used to be terrible about letting teams back in the game from going too conservative with a lead. He just had enough lucky bounces to not actually lose them. Saban is much better now about making the kill shot. Kirby will learn too.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 12:26 pm to Tidemeister
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Sallee fwiw lives in Ga. has hear to ground concerning UGA.
Oh hey, me too! Y’all wanna hear what I’ve heard from all my UGA friends and neighbors?
Posted on 10/15/19 at 12:26 pm to MillerLiteTime
So when does our new coaching search start?
Posted on 10/15/19 at 12:28 pm to Tidemeister
Les Miles 2.0
He will leave the cupboard pretty much loaded for the next coach and no rebuild will be needed outside of maybe a couple of position groups.
He appears too married to his offense and too proud to overhaul it.
He will leave the cupboard pretty much loaded for the next coach and no rebuild will be needed outside of maybe a couple of position groups.
He appears too married to his offense and too proud to overhaul it.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 12:32 pm to MillerLiteTime
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2 national titles
I doubt yall would have beat Clemson last year.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 12:35 pm to MillerLiteTime
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So basically Nick Saban with 20 years of his career left to grow
you're not allowed to say this. Any time anyone mentions that saban cut his teeth as a HC for 6 years at toldeo/msu then finally won it all in his 10th season they're told to stfu and none of that matters. At least you're a bama fan so people might have mercy on you.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 12:35 pm to 00 Tech Grad
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He appears too married to his offense and too proud to overhaul it.
Lol, this is middle of year 4 for a guy who never been a HC and just hired his second OC.
Little early for this kinda “hot take.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 12:38 pm to Tidemeister
I'm almost surprised that Barrett Sallee isn't in witness protection after the shite he talked to the cardinals on behalf of the braves blew up in his face so spectacularly last week.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 12:38 pm to boXerrumble
quote:Exactly what everyone has said about Nick Saban for over a decade.
Exactly what everyone has said.
Elite recruiter
Average-Good Gameday Coach
Elite recruiter
Poor X's/O's and Gameday Coach
Posted on 10/15/19 at 2:16 pm to Tidemeister
Kirby is a better recruiter than Richt ever dreamed of being.
He is also a worse on field coach than Richt could ever imagine being.
He is also a worse on field coach than Richt could ever imagine being.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 2:31 pm to WG_Dawg
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I'd be ok running our pro style offense if the playcalling had some creativity to it, which it does not.
This is a great point and it can be said about every offensive system out there.
For example, the triple option as run by Army, something the board discussed earlier. It is a heavy dose of FB dive up the middle. They want you to collapse in on the dive so they can go outside with a pitch or triple option. They want you to bring in the safeties so they can go over the top.
It is fine to be a bit predictable if it is setting up the rest of your offense. What isn't fine is being predictable if it is running the same set of plays over and over again and not setting anything up.
Arkansas runs a spread passing game (it isn't anything like what Gus runs no matter what some say) and it is horrifically predictable. 95% of our runs are HB dives. We show read option on almost every handoff but the QB never keeps it. We rarely throw screens and when we run a "trick" play you can almost always see it coming a mile away because it will be a formation that we never use except for that one play.
You have to be creative with your play calling because if you are just doing the same thing over and over again the other team will eventually adjust.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 4:13 pm to boXerrumble
I definitely don’t think Smart is a good game day coach, and I’m not even sure that he’s an average game day coach.
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