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re: Kentucky's Willie Cauley-Stein returning for his Junior year

Posted on 4/14/14 at 9:00 pm to
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 4/14/14 at 9:00 pm to
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Yeah. Sure.

I mean who is going to be better? Not Florida. Y'all lost damn near every playmaker you have. If they lose just Randle and Young, it won't be pretty for anyone in the SEC
Posted by GatorsGators
Member since Oct 2012
13454 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 9:07 pm to
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I mean who is going to be better? Not Florida. Y'all lost damn near every playmaker you have. If they lose just Randle and Young, it won't be pretty for anyone in the SEC

No we didn't.
Posted by cornhat
Member since Feb 2011
3393 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 9:17 pm to
But Gators^2, we lost errbody. Even Kasey Hill and Walker and Frazier and Doe-Doe. We have no players coming in. Donovan goes to the Knicks. O'Dome becomes a jorts factory.
Posted by GatorsGators
Member since Oct 2012
13454 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 9:18 pm to
Our roster next season:

PG: Kasey Hill, Chris Chiozza
SG: Michael Frazier, Eli Carter, Brandone Francis, Dillon Graham
SF: Devon Walker, Devin Robinson
PF: Dorian Finney-Smith, Alex Murphy
C: Chris Walker, Damontre Harris

We're still loaded.
Posted by bgator85
Sarasota
Member since Aug 2007
6025 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 9:51 pm to
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We're still loaded.


Exactly, this is still a Final Four caliber team. I expect it to be a UF-UK battle next year.
Posted by whiskeyjohn
Member since Aug 2013
1153 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 11:44 pm to
If Johnson and the Harrison twins return, UK will be the favorites in the SEC. Florida will be the only team that will be able to at least hang around with them. And Florida may very well be a FF team.
Posted by BasedGator
Member since Sep 2012
391 posts
Posted on 4/15/14 at 1:01 am to
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If Johnson and the Harrison twins return, UK will be the favorites in the SEC. Florida will be the only team that will be able to at least hang around with them. And Florida may very well be a FF team.



On the flip side, if the Harrison twins leave, UK will have a lot of issues in the backcourt. Not buying that they will be super successful depending on a 5 9 freshmen to be their PG, no matter how ridiculous their front court is.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119305 posts
Posted on 4/15/14 at 5:53 am to
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On the flip side, if the Harrison twins leave, UK will have a lot of issues in the backcourt. Not buying that they will be super successful depending on a 5 9 freshmen to be their PG, no matter how ridiculous their front court is.


Common Cal occurrence. Only one year did it not work out well. I like our chances, but yes, a lot of pressure resides on the PG in Cal's system.
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 4/15/14 at 6:08 am to
I wouldn't be surprised if they end up going the 5th year transfer route if those guys do leave.

I think a lot of people are underestimating Ullis because of his size. He could be a perfect type of pass first kind of guy this team needs, especially with a shooter the caliber of Booker playing next to him and the talent they have in the front court. He was apparently one of the most impressive guys at the McDonald's AA practices. Great defender.

Also think Florida fans are underestimating the impact of losing guys like Wilbekin and Young. How many massive shots did Scottie hit this year? He had the ability to carry their team when the offense would hit a lull.
Posted by SpartyGator
Detroit Lions fan
Member since Oct 2011
75496 posts
Posted on 4/15/14 at 6:10 am to
That Starting 5 will still be pretty damn good.
Posted by cornhat
Member since Feb 2011
3393 posts
Posted on 4/15/14 at 6:23 am to
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Also think Florida fans are underestimating the impact of losing guys like Wilbekin and Young.
No one believes we're going to win as many games without them. Our defense will definitely take a step back. But we still have playmakers.

FWIW, Ullis doesn't think much of Wilbekin.
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 4/15/14 at 6:26 am to
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That Starting 5 will still be pretty damn good.



Oh for sure. I just don't think you are able to replace the sort of impact that those guys made.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119305 posts
Posted on 4/15/14 at 6:27 am to
I think it's easy to say, as you can most years, that UK and UF will represent the SEC well.
Posted by GatorsGators
Member since Oct 2012
13454 posts
Posted on 4/15/14 at 4:04 pm to
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FWIW, Ullis doesn't think much of Wilbekin.

Ulis would be lucky if he could achieve half of what Wilbekin did at the college level.

We'll miss Wilbekin and Young undoubtedly. I didn't say we'd win as many games next season as we did this season.

I do expect to still be really good and compete for an SEC title, though. There's no reason we shouldn't be able to with the amount of talent on our roster.
Posted by Breadstick Gun
Colorado Springs, CO
Member since Apr 2009
10173 posts
Posted on 4/15/14 at 4:23 pm to
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Kentucky's Willie Cauley-Stein returning for his Junior year


good for him. Hopefully that hideous shirt he wore under his jersey during the championship game never returns.
Posted by BasedGator
Member since Sep 2012
391 posts
Posted on 4/15/14 at 4:54 pm to
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I think a lot of people are underestimating Ullis because of his size. He could be a perfect type of pass first kind of guy this team needs, especially with a shooter the caliber of Booker playing next to him and the talent they have in the front court. He was apparently one of the most impressive guys at the McDonald's AA practices. Great defender.

Also think Florida fans are underestimating the impact of losing guys like Wilbekin and Young. How many massive shots did Scottie hit this year? He had the ability to carry their team when the offense would hit a lull.


I think Ullis can be good in time, but just not buying he will do well as a freshmen. I would know how good a short PG can be (Erv Walker), but the lack of size is going to be an issue that will be difficult to figure out in just one year. Definitely can see him contributing as a scorer, but it's difficult for ANY pg to be really good in one year, let alone a 5 9 one. If he gets in foul trouble, then what?

As far as Scottie and Young, yes we will def miss them, but more so on the defensive end. Young started having knee problems during his junior year and he was no where near the scorer we had hoped he would be. I remember games his sophomore year where he would just dominate with his baby hook, but never really had that consistency after. Yes, Scottie hit some big shots but he was a relatively conservative point guard and as a result, our offense probably suffered to some extent.

I expect next year to be a typical up-tempo high scoring Billy D offense. Defense will take a step back, and we won't win as many games in the regular season, but we will def by right there for an SEC regular championship and have Final Four potential. Another good blend of experience and youth. I expect big things from Hill and Walker.
Posted by GatorsGators
Member since Oct 2012
13454 posts
Posted on 4/15/14 at 5:00 pm to
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Yes, Scottie hit some big shots but he was a relatively conservative point guard and as a result, our offense probably suffered to some extent.
I don't at all agree with this. Wilbekin played very poorly against UConn, but he was one of the best point guards in the country on both ends down the stretch.

We'll be fine, though. Hill might not be as good as Wilbekin overall next season, but he'll bring some traits to the table that even Wilbekin didn't. Elite vision and athleticism.
This post was edited on 4/15/14 at 5:00 pm
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