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re: Joe Burrow now 1/1 Odds to win Heisman

Posted on 10/28/19 at 11:53 am to
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84856 posts
Posted on 10/28/19 at 11:53 am to
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Let me remind you about why LF7 got that "treatment" in that 2015 showdown.

LF7 = 19 rushes, 31 yards

Derrick Henry = 38 rushes, 210 yards


Yeah, who can forget Henry running against LF7.

These head to head statistics are juvenile. Henry dominated against the LSU defense, not against LF7.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84856 posts
Posted on 10/28/19 at 11:55 am to
quote:

It's about time to give it to someone other than a QB, and Chase Young is the best player in the country on the best team in the country right now. 4 sacks and a FF in the biggest game of the year? He's still not getting enough credit.


The problem is that Ohio State would still be 8-0 if Chase Young was never born.
Posted by halfadolla50
Member since Oct 2015
321 posts
Posted on 10/28/19 at 11:59 am to
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Chase Young isn't even the nation's leader in sacks. I agree he's a Bosa like freak though.



UMM Yes he is
Posted by LSU40
Vicksburge, MS
Member since Oct 2007
2253 posts
Posted on 10/28/19 at 12:00 pm to
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It's about time to give it to someone other than a QB,


Any other time I would agree to this, but screw that in a year where an LSU QB has a chance to win it. Haha.
Not only could this be a huge thing for Burrow, it would equally be huge for LSU and future recruits at that position.
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
13363 posts
Posted on 10/28/19 at 12:02 pm to
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Fields shouldnt be anywhere on a list with Burrow/Tua/Hurts/Young
Why bc he's on a team with other top players? He has a better shot at a NC than Burrow or Tua. Hell Tua's on the bench and Burrow played 1 defense and was on par with about 4 out of the other 7 QB that played the same defense.
This post was edited on 10/28/19 at 12:10 pm
Posted by bayou prince
NC
Member since Oct 2019
1437 posts
Posted on 10/28/19 at 12:15 pm to
I would pick and vote for Burrow right now..... A quarterback always wins the Heisman nowadays but let's weigh in this info... Chase Young is 20/1. he is on a historic pace to possibly break the modern day sack record of 24. Would he be seriously considered if that came to fruition.
Posted by bayou prince
NC
Member since Oct 2019
1437 posts
Posted on 10/28/19 at 12:20 pm to
Young make plays that are humanly impossibly, like being tripled-teamed 9chipped) and still making the sack in 3 seconds.
Posted by chillmonster
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2018
5072 posts
Posted on 10/28/19 at 12:29 pm to
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Any other time I would agree to this, but screw that in a year where an LSU QB has a chance to win it. Haha.
Not only could this be a huge thing for Burrow, it would equally be huge for LSU and future recruits at that position.



I'd be the exact same way. Can't blame you.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 10/28/19 at 12:38 pm to
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4 sacks and a FF in the biggest game of the year? He's still not getting enough credit.


Biggest game of the year? Nah. Wisconsin just lost to 4-4 Illinois. Penn St and Michigan will be tests. Then the Big-10 championship game.

If LSU wins vs Bama, the Heisman is over. If not, Young has a shot.
Posted by chillmonster
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2018
5072 posts
Posted on 10/28/19 at 12:41 pm to
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Biggest game of the year? Nah. Wisconsin just lost to 4-4 Illinois. Penn St and Michigan will be tests. Then the Big-10 championship game.


It was their biggest game of the year. Burrow needs to play excellent football in a win v Bama, and it'll be pretty much wrapped up.
Posted by cyogi
Member since Feb 2009
5137 posts
Posted on 10/28/19 at 12:44 pm to
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Let me remind you about why LF7 got that "treatment" in that 2015 showdown.

LF7 = 19 rushes, 31 yards

LSU's offense was so predictable and outdated, that no running back inserted into LSU's offense would have succeeded in that game against Alabama. There's a reason many of us wanted Miles gone from LSU, and the rest of the SEC wanted him to stay at LSU.
This post was edited on 10/28/19 at 12:46 pm
Posted by LSU40
Vicksburge, MS
Member since Oct 2007
2253 posts
Posted on 10/28/19 at 12:49 pm to
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I'd be the exact same way. Can't blame you.


Thanks.
Posted by WilliamTaylor21
2720 Arse Whipping Avenue
Member since Dec 2013
35930 posts
Posted on 10/28/19 at 12:51 pm to
Posted by stat19
Member since Feb 2011
29350 posts
Posted on 10/28/19 at 1:22 pm to
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Curious if a loss to Alabama in Tuscaloosa earns him the LF7 treatment.


The loss didn't garner the treatment, Fournette's inept play earned him that honor.
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
11805 posts
Posted on 10/28/19 at 1:26 pm to
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Not dispositive, but interesting nonetheless: Charlie Ward (1993) was the last player to miss a game in the season they won the Heisman. Long time ago.



1993 we still had 11 regular season games. winner of LSU/Bama will have 12 + SECCG. one of the two going undefeated will win the Heisman.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35528 posts
Posted on 10/28/19 at 1:30 pm to
"After I finish this juice box I'm going to eat your offense."



Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
Ms Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2004
18662 posts
Posted on 10/28/19 at 1:51 pm to
I am still not used to this. LSU with a great QB is hard to get used to


I am enjoying it though
Posted by viceman
Huntsville, AL
Member since Aug 2016
30688 posts
Posted on 10/28/19 at 2:00 pm to
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Curious if a loss to Alabama in Tuscaloosa earns him the LF7 treatment.


LF did not play well and Henry did, is how that race got flipped in one game. However, I think this is all setting Tua up. If Bama wins, the media will tout Tua as the comeback kid. The winner of this game should be the front runner. If Joe plays well and loses like Hurts did, he is still in it, like Hurts is, but he will behind Tua again.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26958 posts
Posted on 10/28/19 at 2:16 pm to
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Curious if a loss to Alabama in Tuscaloosa earns him the LF7 treatment.



If Alabama gives him the LF7 treatment, and if Tua balls out, then yeah, he's toast. It's over.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26958 posts
Posted on 10/28/19 at 2:18 pm to
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LSU's offense was so predictable and outdated, that no running back inserted into LSU's offense would have succeeded in that game against Alabama.


Your OL was hot garbage also, at least against the Alabama defense.
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