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re: Jalen Tabor says college football is "Modern Form of Slavery"

Posted on 1/19/16 at 7:14 pm to
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37299 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 7:14 pm to
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I don't blame cam for getting his 250k. For once in his life he was paid what he was worth.


So at what 20 or 21 Cam got paid 250k by Auburn (in your scenario) and people are supposed to think something is sad or wrong with the idea that someone 20 or 21 years old are just then making that amount of money?

I don't feel bad for any of them having to wait a few years to play pro. Them's the rules and they are fine with me.



Posted by Usey
EC
Member since Jul 2013
484 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 7:17 pm to
20-30K A year? Ridiculous. A small amount for living expenses is reasonable especially for kids coming from really low income families. Something that is much more rare than it was 30 years ago. Every kid should have decent clothes, supplies, and spending money and Football players have no time for a job even it it were allowed.

But where do you start and stop the payments. Every athlete? What about the band, cheerleaders, flag core? Managers, etc....

Then you have the question of revenue generating V nonRev sports. Women golfers do not need spending money.
Posted by Mizz-SEC
Inbred Huntin' In The SEC
Member since Jun 2013
19236 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 7:18 pm to
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Well he went to Florida..


fricking Gator SJW should DIAF.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 7:18 pm to
He's not that wrong. The restrictions that are on these kids are fricking ridiculous.
This post was edited on 1/19/16 at 7:19 pm
Posted by tennvol
Member since Nov 2014
2495 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 7:18 pm to
frick all this entitled dumbasses, the only reason they have a future is our willingness to support a college, let the frickers try to survive in a real life job market place!
This post was edited on 1/19/16 at 7:20 pm
Posted by mikeb0870
Member since Sep 2015
366 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 7:19 pm to
The NCAA made over 900 million this year the players may need the school but your a fool if you think the school doesn't need them.

If the players need the school more than, why do schools spend millions a year to try and get them? Jesus, they can pay the players out of the recruiting budgets and have money left over.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Member since Nov 2011
46419 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 7:20 pm to
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I'm pretty receptive to the college athletes getting paid argument, but when you equate something that you have a choice to participate in to being owned by another person and forced to do whatever they want your entire life..................you just probably aren't very smart.


all of this
Posted by mikeb0870
Member since Sep 2015
366 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 7:21 pm to
When the band and cheerleaders start bringing in that type of revenue then pay them too.
Posted by UMRealist
Member since Feb 2013
35360 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 7:21 pm to
Could you imagine if he was at Mizzou?
Posted by tennvol
Member since Nov 2014
2495 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 7:22 pm to
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The NCAA made over 900 million this year the players may need the school but your a fool if you think the school doesn't need them.

If the players need the school more than, why do schools spend millions a year to try and get them? Jesus, they can pay the players out of the recruiting budgets and have money left over.



There is many more dumbasses willing to play football for a chance to make it to the pros, their skills are not rare, they betters recognize this or their gravy train will end!
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 7:23 pm to
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What about the band, cheerleaders, flag core? Managers, etc....
I'm pretty sure all of these people are allowed to have jobs during college.
Posted by tennvol
Member since Nov 2014
2495 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 7:25 pm to
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When the band and cheerleaders start bringing in that type of revenue then pay them too.


There are many more bodies that can substitute the chosen ones, they are not unique, their skills are a dime a dozen in the poor countries, they need to appreciate what they have, or their gravy train will end.!
Posted by Sid E Walker
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Member since Nov 2013
23884 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 7:26 pm to
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96% of students at UF received a Bright Futures scholarship: LINK

The criteria for that scholarship is very low. Many many students had a full ride on that scholarship.

Full ride on Bright Futures? Not at all. My son earned the BF scholarship at UF and it only covered about 30% of the tuition and 0% on the books. The state legislators have whittled down BF substantially. It helps, but is a far cry from its original intent.
Posted by sullivanct19a
Florida
Member since Oct 2015
5239 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 7:30 pm to
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96% of students at UF received a Bright Futures scholarship: LINK

The criteria for that scholarship is very low. Many many students had a full ride on that scholarship. Then if you applied to other scholarships or were a National Merit Scholar, you get paid to go to UF. It's not that difficult.

It also helps that athletes bring and generate more money to a school directly than a student does.


How much is "many"? The highest you can get through BF is 103/credit hour, and tuition at UF is 212/credit hour.

You grossly overestimate the number of people getting academic scholarship.

You are also clueless about the money brought in to schools by students. Graduate students bring in more money to institutions, and get far, far, far less than athletes. Grad students are vital to grant money that is about 100x more than athletics money, if not more. Athletics pales in comparison to NIH, NSF, and other grant money.

And, at 212/credit hour and books that are likely 1000 or more per semester, I doubt athletes bring in more per person. Also, you have to tabulate what universities spend on the athletes. How about we compare the gyms for students to the strength and conditioning center for athletes? How about we tally up the tutoring expenses universities incur or how much it costs just to tape ankles before a practice? How about we tally up the cost of a grad student teaching a lecture hall full of undergrads in calc 1 compared to the film study rooms and player game rooms and such for the athletes?

These asshats like Jalen are completely oblivious to how much money is spent on them, as opposed to how much money is made from them.

Posted by sullivanct19a
Florida
Member since Oct 2015
5239 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 7:33 pm to
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You don't even have to provide a stipend, at least let the kid sell his memorabilia. Why can't they sell a pair of shoes when there are people out there willing to spend hundreds of dollars for it?


That's a loaded issue though. Who paid for the shoes to begin with? Wasn't the player was it? So why should the player get to sell merchandise he didn't pay for?
Posted by cornhat
Member since Feb 2011
3393 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 7:33 pm to
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He's not that wrong. The restrictions that are on these kids are fricking ridiculous.

It's absolutely stupid and feels vaguely non conservative to restrict someone from getting full value for their effort. Booster wants to pay a recruit 200k, but recruit has to say no?
Posted by MeatPants
Member since Nov 2015
8853 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 7:34 pm to
He's right though. College football does have overtones of slavery

That's why the south loves and fights it against it so much. What would be wrong with giving these kids something? Why do people and fans fight so much against it.


Football is a brutal sport that does long lasting damage to body and brain and a lot of people who don't go through that make outrageous amounts of money

It's really horrible when you think about it


And please don't give me anything about the "get to go to school" you uppity mfers
Posted by sullivanct19a
Florida
Member since Oct 2015
5239 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 7:35 pm to
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I knew many of the players and they were in fact broke


Which makes them like what - the majority of people their age?
Posted by tennvol
Member since Nov 2014
2495 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 7:36 pm to
Without the college football system, all of this dumbasses would be working a minimum salary job, if they even want to work!
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 7:38 pm to
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Which makes them like what - the majority of people their age?
The majority of the people their age are allowed to have jobs.
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