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re: Jalen Tabor says college football is "Modern Form of Slavery"
Posted on 1/20/16 at 3:17 pm to tiger in the gump
Posted on 1/20/16 at 3:17 pm to tiger in the gump
No. The reason is that investors cannot compete with the existing college football cartel's method of risk allocation.
If a college football player gets injured, there are no deep pockets to sue. It's all hidden within universities, athletic departments, conferences, bowl committees, and television networks.
The way the NFL manages risk is easy: no one under 21 is allowed entry, there is a pension system, and periodic collective bargaining via unions.
Any private investor would have to set up system with similar features, all of which would be more expensive by admitting those under 21.
None of them compete with the cartel's system: free labor. That's why there isn't a professional under 21 league.
If a college football player gets injured, there are no deep pockets to sue. It's all hidden within universities, athletic departments, conferences, bowl committees, and television networks.
The way the NFL manages risk is easy: no one under 21 is allowed entry, there is a pension system, and periodic collective bargaining via unions.
Any private investor would have to set up system with similar features, all of which would be more expensive by admitting those under 21.
None of them compete with the cartel's system: free labor. That's why there isn't a professional under 21 league.
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Posted on 1/20/16 at 3:22 pm to DawgsLife
Only college football poses significant moral problems, for reasons everyone has already brought up in this thread.
Players should be paid from revenue. If that impacts profitability and there are fewer football programs, so be it.
Since I think the system is immoral, I'm not inclined to be persuaded by the logistical concerns of making it less immoral.
Players should be paid from revenue. If that impacts profitability and there are fewer football programs, so be it.
Since I think the system is immoral, I'm not inclined to be persuaded by the logistical concerns of making it less immoral.
Posted on 1/20/16 at 3:54 pm to TJGator1215
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TJGator1215
You're as bad as the asshat Jalen. You're the dumbest person on TD and that's saying something after reading some of the crap in the OTL.
There's no way you're a student or alumnus of UF. You are hurting the value of my degrees from Florida. Get that Gator stuff off your name and stop posting.
Posted on 1/20/16 at 4:08 pm to JesusQuintana
If he had any family that were really slaves I'll bet they're rolling over in their graves mad as hail comparing a college football player to them
Posted on 1/20/16 at 4:13 pm to JesusQuintana
Adrian Peterson said the same thing a few years back. It's an extremely poor analogy.
Posted on 1/20/16 at 4:25 pm to yllenaaa
The system is not immoral. There are walk on players who get zero and work while they are in school.
This guy is not a whiney little bitch
This guy is not a whiney little bitch
Posted on 1/20/16 at 4:26 pm to oilfieldcaptain
quote:Well said. Sports is just a form of entertainment, it doesn't do anything else. It generates a lot of money, but so do albums, movies, etc.
Just shows were we are as a society. These kids are suggesting that they are victims. It was just two generations ago that people took great risks to give them the opportunity. I would personally compare football players to Rock stars, not slaves.
Posted on 1/20/16 at 4:33 pm to Scoob
Actors musicians and athletes are all broke or rich, and they all start out broke. Most stay that way if they don't find another career.
This post was edited on 1/20/16 at 4:34 pm
Posted on 1/20/16 at 4:39 pm to yllenaaa
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yllenaaa
You're right up there with Jalen and TJGator as dumbest ever.
There was a guy on the OTL that compared spanking children to ISIS cutting people's heads off. You and the other two idiots in your trio are dangerously close to eclipsing that degree of stupidity.
Posted on 1/20/16 at 4:48 pm to sullivanct19a
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You're as bad as the asshat Jalen. You're the dumbest person on TD.
Posted on 1/20/16 at 4:51 pm to Mizz-SEC
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Mizz-SEC
Still butthurt about your university's failings and having that pointed out to you?
Posted on 1/20/16 at 5:09 pm to yllenaaa
For the love of God....why does this STILL come up.
Scholarship athletes are compensated, and fairly well. Free tuition, room and board, meals, apparel, expert training and paid a stipend.
Not to mention, and this is probably more important to most players, you are BMOC and I know most took full advantage of this while I was at Mizzou. Bars, girls, etc. and of course anything they are getting under the table.
It's not a bad gig. In fact, it's pretty awesome and if it weren't there wouldn't be so many kids busting their asses to get a chance to do it.
I'd be all for an increased stipend for power 5 schools. $1000/mo flat and same for every school. That's more than enough pocket money for a college kid, but these free market pay for play proposals are asinine.
Scholarship athletes are compensated, and fairly well. Free tuition, room and board, meals, apparel, expert training and paid a stipend.
Not to mention, and this is probably more important to most players, you are BMOC and I know most took full advantage of this while I was at Mizzou. Bars, girls, etc. and of course anything they are getting under the table.
It's not a bad gig. In fact, it's pretty awesome and if it weren't there wouldn't be so many kids busting their asses to get a chance to do it.
I'd be all for an increased stipend for power 5 schools. $1000/mo flat and same for every school. That's more than enough pocket money for a college kid, but these free market pay for play proposals are asinine.
Posted on 1/20/16 at 5:35 pm to sullivanct19a
Look here dick sucker. frick off. I know it sucks being an a-hole baby who's parents should have had aborted. If you kill Yourself I'll throw a party.
This post was edited on 1/20/16 at 5:46 pm
Posted on 1/20/16 at 5:38 pm to TJGator1215
Great paper for and against paying players.
sport's journal.
sport's journal.
Posted on 1/20/16 at 6:15 pm to TJGator1215
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Look here dick sucker. frick off. I know it sucks being an a-hole baby who's parents should have had aborted. If you kill Yourself I'll throw a party.
Get that Gator stuff off. You need to be with the USJW people. Maybe you can do some fake hunger strikes with Jonathan Butler or make believe you're coordinating with the National Guard or trample on free speech.
You're the dumbest on the board. Not even close.
Posted on 1/20/16 at 6:52 pm to sullivanct19a
Your dad should have busted off in a salad, that would have had a greater impact than your posts.
This post was edited on 1/20/16 at 11:51 pm
Posted on 1/21/16 at 3:40 pm to JesusQuintana
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Scholarship athletes are compensated, and fairly well. Free tuition, room and board, meals, apparel, expert training and paid a stipend.
If people had to pay for college before they went, without loans or scholarships, do you think they would be willing to pay more or less than the nominal value of tuition for a semester?
I bought a suit once and the salesman told me I was getting a great deal. I got 2 suits for $200 that, he claimed, regularly sold for $1000. So he said I would walk out almost 2k richer.
If the idea that spending $200 can gain you an imaginary $1800 is silly to you, then so should imputing significant value to free college tuition. If we had true price discovery for the cost of college, it would fall like a stone.
Part of the reason I see the issue with such moral clarity is that I assign almost no value to a college degree (FTR, I have one, Magna Cum Laude). They will eventually phase out entirely and that will be a great societal development:
Prestigious program where you get paid 100k to skip college:
Thiel Fellowship
Pay 6k, attend for 6 weeks, leave with a 100k+ job:
Coding Bootcamps
This post was edited on 1/21/16 at 3:41 pm
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