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re: Jalen Tabor says college football is "Modern Form of Slavery"
Posted on 1/19/16 at 10:39 pm to TJGator1215
Posted on 1/19/16 at 10:39 pm to TJGator1215
Link all you fricking want. There isn't a team on a campus that has 40 hour weeks. It's a damn joke. They are liars. Just like Arian Foster was a liar when he said he couldn't afford to eat.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 10:40 pm to lsupride87
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Link all you fricking want. There isn't a team on a campus that has 40 hour weeks. It's a damn joke. They are liars. Just like Arian Foster was a liar when he said he couldn't afford to eat.
Arian told a lot of tall tales. It was made worse by the fact that many fans knew his dad had a very good job.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 10:43 pm to Prof
I mean what dumbass would believe we workout 40 hours? We would be dead on our feet and not worth a shite to anyone. Hell, pro athletes wouldn't dream of working out 40 hours in a week. It would be stupid as hell
Posted on 1/19/16 at 10:54 pm to Che Boludo
No he isn't. His degree will be in sport mgmt. The schools set the price and his tuition is not OOS. Athletes bring in billions of dollars. Jesus you can't be this dumb.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 10:56 pm to lsupride87
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I mean what dumbass would believe we workout 40 hours? We would be dead on our feet and not worth a shite to anyone. Hell, pro athletes wouldn't dream of working out 40 hours in a week. It would be stupid as hell
The things Arian's said in the media about his college experience have been ridiculous and he's probably done more harm than good to whatever cause he thinks he's fighting for. Foster is still mad that he went undrafted (and tbh, I still can't believe no one took a shot but an RB with fumbles and a penchant for being strange isn't a top priority when teams know they can pick him up as an UDFA for peanuts) even though he's making a ton now. You'd think he'd be past it but he's not and he blames staying in college for his senior year as the reason he went undrafted (yeah).
This post was edited on 1/19/16 at 10:58 pm
Posted on 1/19/16 at 10:58 pm to lsupride87
Clearly you are a dumbass.
From the link:
From the link:
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EDUCATION
Here's The Insane Amount Of Time Student-Athletes Spend On Practice
Peter Jacobs Jan. 27, 2015, 11:44 AM52,639 6
?AP Photo/Gerry BroomeFormer UNC football player Devon Ramsay is one of two former student-athletes filing a lawsuit against the school and the NCAA.
Collegiate student-athletes may spend more than 40 hours a week practicing, leaving little time to keep up with academic commitments, according to a recent lawsuit against the University of North Carolina Chapel Hill and the NCAA, the organization that governs college sports.
Filed by two former UNC student-athletes, the lawsuit claims that they were deprived of a "meaningful education" while representing the school on the field. The lawsuit — first reported by The Washington Post — follows a scathing investigative report released October 2014, detailing a decades-long academic scandal that predominantly affected UNC student-athletes.
The scandal centers around so-called "paper classes" — which typically never met and only required a final paper — that were offered through the African and Afro-American Studies (AFAM) department. These classes were explicity utilized by members of both UNC academic and athletic departments to help athletes achieve a minimum GPA to maintain their NCAA eligibility, according to former Justice Department official Kenneth Wainstein's report.
Officially, the NCAA restricts student-athletes' in-season practice to 20 hours per week, or four hours per day. Many student-athletes, however, reported that they practice at least 30 hours a week on average, with some sports reporting weekly practice commitments of more than 40 hours, according to a 2011 NCAA survey cited in the UNC lawsuit.
Here were the weekly average hours student-athletes reported they spent:
?Via UNC Lawsuit
The UNC students' lawsuit alsocites a separate NCAA survey, from 2006, which found that student-athletes spent an average of 45 hours per week on athletics. The 2006 survey also breaks down how many hours student-athletes spend in practice each day:
?Via UNC Lawsuit
One potential explanation for the popularity of UNC's "paper classes" is that the amount of time the school's athletics commitments took up prevented them from handling a full course load.
"If these young men and women are going to come in and put in 30, 40, 50 hours, the least we can give them is a set of circumstances academically that really allows them to benefit educationally from what they have put into the athletics context," Robert Orr, one of the lawyers representing the UNC students filing the lawsuit, told Business Insider.
The disconnect between the NCAA's stated policy and what student-athletes actually experience may be due to the organization's definition of what constitutes a practice. Various activities — such as "voluntary" student-led work outs — do not qualify for the 20-hour rule.
Here's how the lawsuit describes the potential problem:
The 20-hour rule itself is also rife with loopholes. Administrative meetings, weight-lifting, conditioning, film study, and activities incidental to participation, such as taping, visits to the trainer, and rehabilitation, do not count towards the 20-hour limit. Nor do "voluntary" activities where no coach is present. Game days count as three total hours, even though they often require travel and hours of pre- and post-game meetinllgs and activities.
This post was edited on 1/19/16 at 11:00 pm
Posted on 1/19/16 at 11:11 pm to tennvol
What? So they should use their best skills to maximize their earning potential? You clearly are an idiot. Their value>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>yours.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 11:16 pm to pvilleguru
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all those people can get jobs
Athletes can get jobs in the Summer if the choose but
you'd have to give up part of the Pell Grant,stipend and now COA funds which would be much more than some $10 hr
construction job or other type of comparable summer college job.
I would doubt they'd have much time for any part time employment during the school year anyway.
If you're from an underprivileged back ground you're
going to get about 5K in Pell Grants,3k to 5k in COA
funds and about 12k to 15k for your room and board stipend (and you really don't have to spend any of the funds on food because of new rules)living off campus.
So thats access to between 20 to 25K in tax free funds
in your pocket with books and tuition paid for.You won't find many college part time jobs that pay that well.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 11:19 pm to Prof
quote:I played baseball with a guy who said he was a DOUCHE at UT.
Arian told a lot of tall tales. It was made worse by the fact that many fans knew his dad had a very good job.
:csb:
Posted on 1/19/16 at 11:46 pm to TJGator1215
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Insane amount of time student athetes spend on practice
The survey was about the amount of time spent per week on "athletic actvities" not practice and the vast majority of those surveyed were DII and DIII athletes and it was far from an honest sampling.Sorry,not buying
the 40 hour conclusion...these same kids said they spent 39 hours a week on academics.So they're telling me they spend nearly EIGHTY HOURS a week splitting their time between academics and athletics?Really?I'm calling complete bullshite on these answers.
This post was edited on 1/20/16 at 12:17 am
Posted on 1/20/16 at 12:04 am to lsupride87
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Link all you fricking want. There isn't a team on a campus that has 40 hour weeks. It's a damn joke. They are liars. Just like Arian Foster was a liar when he said he couldn't afford to eat.
I know from personal experience that we didn't even get close to 40 hour weeks at the D-II school I played for, the NCAA doesn't allow it and they actually do check in on it fairly regularly. Even the smallest schools are watched in that regard, our compliance guy was constantly crunching numbers figuring up how much practice time we had this day or the next, etc.
And I agree that collegiate athletes shouldn't receive 20-30k, that's insane and would lose 99% of universities so much money. I know in that position (no rent, food provided, snacks at the student athlete center, shakes, place to work out, etc) that I would've only needed maybe $3000 in extra money to survive a semester easily, most likely with less, and that's as an out of state player without family remotely nearby. Give them a little, but the amount needs to be regulated to every institution or the whole system will crumble almost instantly. If the player wants to use his $3000 per semester on beer, a car payment, hookers, or donating it to a church, the school should not be able to tell them otherwise.
Posted on 1/20/16 at 12:10 am to TJGator1215
UF research funding was in excess of 700 million.
UF football brought in 124 million and spent 109. 15 mil in profit not counting subsidy.
Any peon understands research grants are the biggest moneymakers for top schools.
Second, Tabor is not a Florida resident so attending UF has a value equivalent to OOS tuition plus all the extra benefits. As established, the benefits are pretty nice. Plus, he gets a choice of degree.
It's a pretty fair trade for 3-4 years of your life, which provides opportunities that most wouldn't otherwise have.
Does it seem a one sided affair, yes. Is slavery hyperbolic as an analogy, yes.
But you're right, I'm probably just stupid.
UF football brought in 124 million and spent 109. 15 mil in profit not counting subsidy.
Any peon understands research grants are the biggest moneymakers for top schools.
Second, Tabor is not a Florida resident so attending UF has a value equivalent to OOS tuition plus all the extra benefits. As established, the benefits are pretty nice. Plus, he gets a choice of degree.
It's a pretty fair trade for 3-4 years of your life, which provides opportunities that most wouldn't otherwise have.
Does it seem a one sided affair, yes. Is slavery hyperbolic as an analogy, yes.
But you're right, I'm probably just stupid.
This post was edited on 1/20/16 at 7:45 am
Posted on 1/20/16 at 7:15 am to Prof
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Just like Arian Foster was a liar when he said he couldn't afford to eat.
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It was made worse by the fact that many fans knew his dad had a very good job.
Stfu. As a current college student If the dining halls are closed and you have no snacks and no cash, you're going hungry for a night. It doesn't matter how good of a job his dad does. My Dad makes 250k+ a year but he doesn't believe in handouts because he grew up broke af. I had to work to get extra cash and that's not exactly possible in the moment living miles and miles away while I'm hungry at 11pm. Most banks won't allow you to transfer money over night let alone use the funds that night. I've had to go "hungry" for a night too, however I didn't just work my fricking arse off at a game/practice and literally NEED food because my body was starving for nutrients. Did Arian Foster imbelish a little? Maybe. But to doubt he actually went to bed with no food on his stomach several times is just fricking ignorant.
Posted on 1/20/16 at 7:41 am to HogFanfromHTown
First off if your just a regular student, it's your own fault you didn't get yo he dining hall before it closed.
Secondly , the athletes now have open training tables. So if they are leaving frm an 8 pm practice , which does not happen, they can take whatever they want home from the training table. This was changed in the last few years.
The athletes aren't staving , so just shut the hell up. It's about them wanting to be paid.
And while, like I've said earlier, they should have opportunity a to earn outside cash; the schools are already providing plenty.
Secondly , the athletes now have open training tables. So if they are leaving frm an 8 pm practice , which does not happen, they can take whatever they want home from the training table. This was changed in the last few years.
The athletes aren't staving , so just shut the hell up. It's about them wanting to be paid.
And while, like I've said earlier, they should have opportunity a to earn outside cash; the schools are already providing plenty.
This post was edited on 1/20/16 at 8:00 am
Posted on 1/20/16 at 7:56 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
These kids get coached up and trained for the NFL for FREE. Any other regular human would have to pay gym fees, pay a nutritionist, personal trainer. These kids are getting the best training for their profession, especially at a school like UF.
News flash, I was a broke college student as well. I didn't get free meals and free tutoring from school. I had to pay to use the rec center, pay for books, pay for laundry.
If these kids were so poor where are they getting clothes, tattoos, jewelry, cars. How do they afford to go out, or buy weed?
Kids at big time programs are already taking hand outs.
News flash, I was a broke college student as well. I didn't get free meals and free tutoring from school. I had to pay to use the rec center, pay for books, pay for laundry.
If these kids were so poor where are they getting clothes, tattoos, jewelry, cars. How do they afford to go out, or buy weed?
Kids at big time programs are already taking hand outs.
Posted on 1/20/16 at 8:06 am to TJGator1215
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If these young men and women are going to come in and put in 30, 40, 50 hours, the least we can give them is a set of circumstances academically that really allows them to benefit educationally from what they have put into the athletics context," Robert Orr, one of the lawyers representing the UNC students filing the lawsuit, told Business Insider.
Omfg this is such bullshite. What college football player on this planet just spent 40 hours practicing last week?
Posted on 1/20/16 at 8:07 am to JesusQuintana
A PC Fan trying to make a Joke of a PC guy.
Posted on 1/20/16 at 8:12 am to dgnx6
quote:He is about to link you some BS article from UNC. I was a college athlete and 40 hours in a week would have killed me. Just use some common sense people. 40 hours would be useless.
Omfg this is such bullshite. What college football player on this planet just spent 40 hours practicing last week?
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