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re: Jalen Tabor says college football is "Modern Form of Slavery"

Posted on 1/20/16 at 8:14 am to
Posted by TheRaid
Currently Living in South Alabama
Member since Jan 2013
1304 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 8:14 am to
he is a moron and disrespects the pain and suffering of his own race in the previous generations.
Posted by Tigerfan53
Death Valley
Member since Nov 2010
3105 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 8:15 am to
What an idiot lol
Posted by atlgator
Jacksonville, Atlanta, Gainesville
Member since Aug 2014
5520 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 8:20 am to
Stupid comment on Jalen's part.

Wish he would've worded his opinion differently, but he apologized for his bad comparison and no harm was done.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
141062 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 8:22 am to
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I was a college athlete





Posted by nofear67
Houston
Member since Jan 2006
2285 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 8:22 am to
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I'm pretty receptive to the college athletes getting paid argument, but when you equate something that you have a choice to participate in to being owned by another person and forced to do whatever they want your entire life..................you just probably aren't very smart.

But when you choose to participate you don't even own your likeness so there's that along with countless other stupid shite the NCAA tries to force on a kid just to "play". What happens if a kid pays his own way to school and wants to compete in athletics? Is his likeness still not his own? If so, then there is a certain lack of fairness to the whole process.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
141062 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 8:26 am to
The answer is simple.

No scholarships for athletics based on being fast.

Do not reduce admissions standards for athletes.

Those that still want to play but can't get in find a market like the CFL. They can own their likeness, get paid to train for the NFL and prosper.

Any version of paying players or allowing them to sell their signatures, clothes, etc is fraught with pitfalls that eventually lead to the final corruption of the term "amateur athlete" if that hasn't already happened.
Posted by Bill Parker?
Member since Jan 2013
4494 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 8:31 am to
Toby. My name is Toby.
Posted by GnashRebel
Member since May 2015
8199 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 8:46 am to
I paid for my college by signing up to go to a few tours in Iraq and Afghanistan. He gets to play a children's game, get tons of fanfare and attention, and make millions the second he graduates. frick you Tabor, you entitled, ungrateful piece of shite.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58976 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 8:53 am to
Is he indicating that slaves had a choice of being a slave....or that football players have no choice about being a football player?
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 8:57 am to
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It was made worse by the fact that many fans knew his dad had a very good job.

Stfu. As a current college student If the dining halls are closed and you have no snacks and no cash, you're going hungry for a night. It doesn't matter how good of a job his dad does. My Dad makes 250k+ a year but he doesn't believe in handouts because he grew up broke af. I had to work to get extra cash and that's not exactly possible in the moment living miles and miles away while I'm hungry at 11pm. Most banks won't allow you to transfer money over night let alone use the funds that night. I've had to go "hungry" for a night too, however I didn't just work my fricking arse off at a game/practice and literally NEED food because my body was starving for nutrients. Did Arian Foster imbelish a little? Maybe. But to doubt he actually went to bed with no food on his stomach several times is just fricking ignorant.


Your dad doesn't believe in handouts to the extent that he made you go to bed hungry?

Sounds legit.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96209 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 8:59 am to
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roadGator
No. But to be honest those guys were more likely to pracitce 40 hours then us
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58976 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 9:00 am to
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But when you choose to participate you don't even own your likeness so there's that along with countless other stupid shite the NCAA tries to force on a kid just to "play".


That is not just the NCAA. NFL players don't "own" thir likeness, either. The NFLPA has to sanction a game company to use their names/likenesses. Granted the players get a cut, but if the NFLPA (I think the league has to agree, too, but they may only have say on the uniforms, I don't remember) says a game company can use the leagues players names/likenesses for their games the players have no say. (Unless this has changed in recent years....if so, I am unaware of it)
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
67205 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 9:08 am to
Plantations were notorious for forcing black males to get college educations.
This post was edited on 1/20/16 at 9:17 am
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 9:13 am to
I believe plantations also recruited the best prospective slaves. Wined and dined them for a year before the prospective slave made a choice as to which plantation he'd like to work.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
141062 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 9:15 am to
Picking your own slave master/plantation owner must have been an exciting time for the prospect.

A mule cart driver picks you up and hands you the plantation logo'd gear, shows you around the fields and then feeds you in the dirt floor kitchen.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
33963 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 9:17 am to
I think his point is that there are inequities in terms of the labor the players put in versus the compensation they receive. He's exaggerating to get attention, but his point is not entirely wrong.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
141062 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 9:18 am to
If they do not like this system they can go to the other markets.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 9:21 am to
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Picking your own slave master/plantation owner must have been an exciting time for the prospect.

A mule cart driver picks you up and hands you the plantation logo'd gear, shows you around the fields and then feeds you in the dirt floor kitchen.


Not only that, but can you imagine the slave girls that were assigned to "host" the 5* slaves?
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
33963 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 9:21 am to
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The answer is simple.


Yes, it is. Create a minor league.

As it is, college football perpetuates a system that takes advantage of young athletes while making millions of dollars for (mostly) independent entities (ADs) that contribute little to nothing to the academic institutions they claim to represent. Meanwhile, the fact that the athletes attend these academic institutions in fact makes a mockery of their admission standards and the effort put in by typical students.

That said, I am obviously a huge fan of CFB and would die a little bit inside if it ever went away. I guess I'm just accepting of the inherent contradictions.


Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
33963 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 9:22 am to
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If they do not like this system they can go to the other markets.


I'm sorry, but there are no other realistic markets. Maybe you can point to a handful of players who went the Canadian route (Akiem Hicks, eg). But the numbers just aren't there to indicate that it is a viable alternative to CFB. In that sense, I believe you are lying to yourself about the existence of alternative markets.
This post was edited on 1/20/16 at 9:24 am
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