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re: It’s Sunday Morning, has anyone figured out the fair catch call in the UA v. UT game yet?

Posted on 10/22/23 at 10:47 am to
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26966 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 10:47 am to
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Everyone understands the rule just fine.


You clearly don't. It had to be explained to you.

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So if the returner is running to the ball


It wasn't the returner, dumbass. It was a teammate signaling to everyone else.

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Almost everyone


Uhh, no they don't.

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It isn’t difficult


It sure as hell is for you.
Posted by Marktastic86
Pismo Beach, CA
Member since Dec 2020
12588 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 10:47 am to
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You aren’t as smart as you think you are, everyone perfectly understands the rule

Not everyone, apparently.
Posted by SabanFollowsMeAround
Member since Aug 2023
61 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 10:49 am to
I wonder if people have considered the effects an invalid fair catch motion could have on the kicking team. Those effects just might be the reason that there is a distinction between valid signaling and invalid signaling.
Posted by Chip82
Athens, Georgia
Member since Jan 2023
902 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 10:51 am to
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Yeah it's called Saban and the SEC office paying the refs. Next question.


The other deep receiver from Tennessee waived off the return. You can't fake out the players charging down the field and then decide to run the ball after they have pulled up thinking that the play is going to be dead.

You don't see this happen very often because most teams have return players who know what they are doing.

This post was edited on 10/22/23 at 11:02 am
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
4440 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 10:55 am to
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The other deep receiver from Tennessee waived off the return.


Post video or pictures of the player waiving off the return.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95500 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 10:56 am to
Speaking of the rule book, it should have been spotted at the 25 if deemed an invalid fair catch. They fricked it up even by the rule book



Read the exception there bama friend

Absolutely nothing says an invalid fair catch on a free kick should be where the receiver catches the ball. Nothing. Read your own rule book
This post was edited on 10/22/23 at 11:00 am
Posted by bodask42
Tuscaloosa
Member since Aug 2009
2085 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 11:00 am to
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I swear. You Bama fans are the most sensitive collection of bleeding vaginas in all of college football. Ask a simple question about a bizarre play and you all get super defensive.


There has been like 20 threads this morning bitching that Bama and the refs collude and cheat.

Even if that wasn’t what you were trying to say, maybe you can forgive where Bama fans were a little defensive and lumped in in with the other 20 threads.
Posted by Chip82
Athens, Georgia
Member since Jan 2023
902 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 11:14 am to
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player waiving off the return.



I watched the broadcast on CBS.

CBS showed the other deep receiver waiving his hands so the dead ball rule applied.

The SEC network will show a replay of this game so tune in.
This post was edited on 10/22/23 at 11:16 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95500 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 11:15 am to
No, they didn’t show him waving his hands. They showed him making balled fists with his hands at his sides.
Posted by BigScoreboard
Member since May 2021
921 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 11:16 am to
To state the call objectively and succinctly, it was subjective bullshite.
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
4440 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 11:18 am to
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CBS showed the other deep receiver waiving his hands so the dead ball rule applied.


No they didn’t
Posted by Chip82
Athens, Georgia
Member since Jan 2023
902 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 11:46 am to
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No they didn’t


Sure looked like it to me and I wasn't pulling for either team to win.

From my point of view, the calls were much worse/biased in the Tennessee - Florida game.
Posted by MikeHuntVFL
VOLS
Member since Oct 2021
756 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 11:47 am to
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Irrelevant, because the guy who made the invalid signal wasn't even trying to catch the ball. The other guy is the one who caught the ball.


A bama fan posted the link?
Posted by Crimson K
Tuscaloosa
Member since Dec 2018
4626 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 12:02 pm to
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If the player can’t do the fair catch signal correctly he deserves to be lit up


While I agree with you in principle, I’d be pretty upset as a coach if one of my guys lit a dude up and got a 15 yard penalty for it. It would be subjectively up to the ref if a guy’s signal was valid or,not.
Posted by tiggerfan02 2021
HSV
Member since Jan 2021
2904 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 12:12 pm to
I have the solution to all of this kickoff bullshite.
Move the KO spot back to the 30 yard line, the ball is live when kicked until it goes out of bounds/out of the end zone or is downed by the receiving team/recovered by the kicking team, and get rid of the stupid fair catch crap.
Posted by Chip82
Athens, Georgia
Member since Jan 2023
902 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 12:18 pm to
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While I agree with you in principle, I’d be pretty upset as a coach if one of my guys lit a dude up and got a 15 yard penalty for it. It would be subjectively up to the ref if a guy’s signal was valid or,not.


The reality that two different signals were given created a problem for the players sprinting down the field to be able to figure out what to do.

The 2018 fair catch rule change was put in to avoid kickoff injuries. The Tennessee players created a situation where there was a higher probability for an injury to occur.
Posted by Mizzoufan26
Vacaville CA
Member since Sep 2012
17222 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 12:21 pm to
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Iowa had a td called back after they had a player do the same thing. Be that as it may it didn't stop Tennessee from running their offense. Tennessee still had the ball. Tennessee offensively was bad the second half with some bone headed play calling and 4th down calls.


To pretend that an offensive scheme 3 yard out of your own end zone would be the same as one with some breathing room is pretty damn dumb, even for a bama fan
Posted by gladchiefisgone
Member since Sep 2010
1798 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 12:39 pm to
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So if the returner is running to the ball and his arms are moving around his waist


Rule 331.332 section 8 paragraph 14 Subsection 67.3 states.

All kick and punt returners must stand or run after the kicked ball with both hands firmly plastered to the sides of their legs. Especially if you are playing in Turdsville.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
64613 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 12:42 pm to
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I wonder if people have considered the effects an invalid fair catch motion could have on the kicking team. Those effects just might be the reason that there is a distinction between valid signaling and invalid signaling.


If any kickoff defender falls for this…



… being remotely like a fair catch motion, they deserve what they get.
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
5786 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 12:52 pm to
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How do you stand, pal? With your arms at your sides like a normal person?


Like a normal person. My arms are straight down. Not elevated.

Are they saying this is just a normal way of standing?
This post was edited on 10/22/23 at 12:54 pm
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