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re: It’s Sunday Morning, has anyone figured out the fair catch call in the UA v. UT game yet?

Posted on 10/22/23 at 10:23 am to
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
5786 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 10:23 am to
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Can't be, fair catching an onside doesn't send you back to the 25.


You can't fair catch a kick off that's hit the ground. That's the beauty of the squib kick. And thusly, the onside-kick. That's why they don't kick a pop-up onside kick.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95455 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 10:26 am to
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Never in your life? The fair catch rule was only added in college football in 2018, so...
Fair catches have existed long before they were added to kickoffs being brought to the 25 as well champ, and little do you likely know, you have always been able to fair catch a kickoff, so the invalid signal rule has always been in play ….
This post was edited on 10/22/23 at 10:28 am
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26966 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 10:27 am to
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I have seen 100s of times in my life...




Again, the fair catch rule was only put in for kickoffs in 2018, so enough of this "never in my life" bullshite. It just makes you sound like an idiot.

And again, if you had the intelligence to actually read the rulebook, you would see that any reference to "the T signal" isn't even in there. Or a Y symbol, or an X symbol, or any other letter of the alphabet. It defines what a legal signal is. Period. The other guy clearly made a signal with his arms, and only a fricking idiot would try to make an argument out of whether or not he made a perfect T or whether or not he waved his arms.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95455 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 10:28 am to
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Again, the fair catch rule was only put in for kickoffs in 2018, so enough of this "never in my life" bullshite. It just makes you sound like an idiot.
You have always been able to call a fair catch on a kickoff you absolute idiot. The only thing they changes is where the ball is brought to. So it being valid or invalid has not changed
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
22805 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 10:28 am to
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quote:From your article: ‘“There is still a bit of wiggle room to complain about the call. It feels a bit ticky-tack, and “any waving of the arm” feels pretty broad when applied to a football player who will likely be using his arms to run and later, catch the ball that is coming his way.”’ Irrelevant, because the guy who made the invalid signal wasn't even trying to catch the ball. The other guy is the one who caught the ball.


In the Iowa situation is a ridiculous thing to call. The ref wasn’t even required to call it as it was subjective. The idea of an invalid fair catch signal is about the dumbest thing the in the world for the Iowa situation.

If the player can’t do the fair catch signal correctly he deserves to be lit up.
Posted by labamafan
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
24264 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 10:28 am to
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Specifically in the Tennessee game 1. Yes they showed that Dee extended both arms out in the T formation signaling touchback. Which signals to the defense the play is dead. 2. In this case since a player other than the one who called the signal caught the ball. The ball is automatically dead the second they catch it. If Dee had caught the ball and returned it, it would have been a penalty for advancing a ball after calling fair catch


Thank you for giving a valid explanation of the rule and not trolling.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26966 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 10:31 am to
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Never in your life? The fair catch rule was only added in college football in 2018, so...
Fair catches have existed long before they were added to kickoffs being brought to the 25 as well champ, and little do you likely know, you have always been able to fair catch a kickoff, so the invalid signal rule has always been in play ….



Now you're just trying to save face. Newsflash, pal...it isn't working. We're talking about the rule change to put the ball on the 25 yard line.

Your problem is that you've never been able to find two brain cells to rub together to actually read the rule book. It's right there for everyone in this thread to read.
Posted by Marktastic86
Pismo Beach, CA
Member since Dec 2020
12586 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 10:31 am to
Is the fact that LSU fans seem more upset about this than Vol fans surprising to anyone?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95455 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 10:32 am to
For bama fans that struggle with the alphabet, this is a t. Now, are his arms matched up?

Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26966 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 10:34 am to
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You have always been able to call a fair catch on a kickoff you absolute idiot.


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The only thing they changes is where the ball is brought to.


That's the rule we're talking about, dipshit.

You're calling me an idiot, and you're the one who is clueless about the fricking rule? You're the one who isto fricking stupid to ask about the rule, because you can't look it up?

Look it up for yourself, dipshit. It's in the book.


Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
5786 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 10:36 am to
What's he doing if NOT calling for a fair catch here?
Posted by Marktastic86
Pismo Beach, CA
Member since Dec 2020
12586 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 10:38 am to
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What's he doing if NOT calling for a fair catch here?

How do you stand, pal? With your arms at your sides like a normal person?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95455 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 10:38 am to
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That's the rule we're talking about, dipshit.
No, dipshit. The Argument is whether or not what he did should be considered an invalid fair catch, dipshit. Which has nothing to do with any 2018 rule change
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26966 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 10:40 am to
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For bama fans that struggle with the alphabet, this is a t. Now, are his arms matched up?



Jesus christ. How fricking stupid are you??? Who gives a shite whether or not it's an actual T??? It clearly wasn't this...

"Valid Signal
ARTICLE 2. A valid signal is a signal given by a player of Team B who has obviously signaled their intention by extending one hand only clearly above their head and waving that hand from side to side of their body more than once."

You literally are dumber than dirt, and now you're just trying to save face. The book clearly defines what a valid signal is, and defines everything else as an invalid signal. The Tennessee guy's signal, whatever you want to call it, is by rule an invalid signal.

Just shut the frick up already. You've won the award for the most retarded poster of the day.

Posted by crawdaddy717
Gainesville, Ga.
Member since Nov 2009
204 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 10:41 am to
Similar call cost Iowa the Minnesota game yesterday. Iowa player returned a punt 46 yards for a TD to give Iowa the lead with 1:
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26966 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 10:42 am to
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That's the rule we're talking about, dipshit.
No, dipshit. The Argument is whether or not what he did should be considered an invalid fair catch, dipshit. Which has nothing to do with any 2018 rule change





ANY signal that doesn't meet the definition of "valid" is invalid.

What a fricking idiot.

This post was edited on 10/22/23 at 10:43 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95455 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 10:44 am to
So if the returner is running to the ball and his arms are moving around his waist, in your opinion an invalid fair catch is occurring. Got it


You are the only idiot here. Everyone understands the rule just fine. A ref can deem whatever they want as an invalid fair catch. Almost everyone disagrees what was called in the two games yesterday should have been deemed so. It isn’t difficult
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26966 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 10:44 am to
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dipshit


You're calling me a dipshit, yet you're the one who is too fricking stupid to actually read the fricking rulebook.

Let that sink in just for a moment before you reply. Stop making yourself out to be an idiot in front of the entire planet.
Posted by RockyRococco
Jacksonville FL
Member since Aug 2021
1256 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 10:46 am to
LMAO this is a "T symbol"? that is actually insane i assumed it was much more blatant when it was called in the game. before you melt
1. I understand the rule and realize it should be called otherwise kickoffs would be memefest of fakery
2. if this picture is the most the player did that's an INSANE call
3. if an alabama player did the same thing there is a zero percent chance that gets called in tuscaloosa

this is much ado about nothing though, tenner are frauds (as always) and bama deserved to win imo
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95455 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 10:46 am to
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You're calling me a dipshit, yet you're the one who is too fricking stupid to actually read the fricking rulebook.
The rule is simple. The ref has judgement to deem whatever they like as an invalid fair catch. It isn’t defined. Almost everyone agrees what happened in the two games yesterday shouldn’t have been deemed as invalid fair catch signals

You aren’t as smart as you think you are, everyone perfectly understands the rule
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