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re: It’s Sunday Morning, has anyone figured out the fair catch call in the UA v. UT game yet?

Posted on 10/22/23 at 9:14 am to
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/22/23 at 9:14 am to
The Iowa player was actually waiving his left arm like crazy. The Tennessee guy barely raised his hands to thigh level
Posted by bubba35741
Member since Sep 2011
889 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 9:14 am to
I am not wild about how this is now being called as well.... It is obvious it was addressed to start calling it more this way on a national level. The football of my youth is gone....
Posted by Pikes Peak Tiger
Colorado Springs
Member since Jun 2023
3945 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 9:15 am to
While we are on this subject, I bet this gets called against LSU in 2 weeks of the game is close or LSU is winning.
Posted by RAB
Member since Aug 2019
990 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 9:15 am to
Dollars to doughnuts, a Bama analyst saw that tendency on tape last week and the coaching staff told the officials to watch for it. Same thing likely happened in the Iowa game.
This post was edited on 10/22/23 at 9:16 am
Posted by WhiskeyRiverBlues
In my boat down on the river
Member since Aug 2023
2714 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 9:17 am to
Good luck if you are playing them in Tuscaloosa. Because the refs won't let them lose. They are protecting Saban's dynasty for as long as possible.
Posted by UltimaParadox
Huntsville
Member since Nov 2008
40861 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 9:25 am to
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His hand was at waist level


He extended both arms out in the T symbol which is valid signal to the officials of touchback on kickoffs.

It is not just limited to waving your arm above your head. I know you have watched football enough to see this motion in basically every college football game now



He clearly extends both arms out in the touchback signal. Which alerts the defense and the officials the play is dead
This post was edited on 10/22/23 at 9:29 am
Posted by Pikes Peak Tiger
Colorado Springs
Member since Jun 2023
3945 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 9:33 am to
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UltimaParadox


You might take a look at the pic you posted and learn what the letter T looks like. That ain’t it.
Posted by dhuck20
SCLSU Fan
Member since Oct 2012
20400 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 9:35 am to
quote:

Specifically in the Tennessee game

1. Yes they showed that Dee extended both arms out in the T formation signaling touchback. Which signals to the defense the play is dead.

2. In this case since a player other than the one who called the signal caught the ball. The ball is automatically dead the second they catch it.

If Dee had caught the ball and returned it, it would have been a penalty for advancing a ball after calling fair catch.

But MUH REC BAMA REFS
Posted by UltimaParadox
Huntsville
Member since Nov 2008
40861 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 9:37 am to
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You might take a look at the pic you posted and learn what the letter T looks like. That ain’t it.


Lol well brother that's the signal. He clearly extends both arms. It has nothing to do with his waist
Posted by UltimaParadox
Huntsville
Member since Nov 2008
40861 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 9:39 am to
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But MUH REC BAMA REFS


I would have loved to see the reactions if the returner would have fumbled the ball instead.

Since the play was dead it would have stayed with Tennessee either way.
Posted by PharmacistReb
Oxford, MS
Member since Jan 2009
5058 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 9:43 am to
That’s a T symbol to you? Lol. Wtf man. At least try to be objective.
Posted by UltimaParadox
Huntsville
Member since Nov 2008
40861 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 9:45 am to
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That’s a T symbol to you? Lol. Wtf man. At least try to be objective.

Looks pretty clear to me why else does he have both arms extended on a kick off return?

Does he walk like that?
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
17895 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 9:48 am to
When did this "both arms kinda out at the sides" thing begin to signal a fair catch? I honestly don't know the history on this. Has always been a wave above the head.
Posted by SmokeyGirl
Member since Sep 2023
159 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 9:49 am to
It was weak in my opinion but I don't pretend to know all the rules. I still don't understand the call where it was called delay of game because, I think it was Beasley, who clapped his hands. I've said it before I'll say it again, it's not the calls against you as much as it is the ones they don't ever see on Bama. 1 penalty against Bama the whole game. They get by with more holds than any team I've ever watched. However, we choked second half, got outcoached by Saban. There's no excuse for not scoring the whole second half, but don't ever say refs can't swing the momentum totally. I still feel like Vegas and betting are killing college sports.
Posted by UltimaParadox
Huntsville
Member since Nov 2008
40861 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 9:50 am to
Pretty sure it was introduced when the kickoff rules changed where you could bring it out the 25.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95503 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 10:05 am to
I have seen 100s of times in my life the up man signal to the receiver to not take the ball out by making the T signal (which the Tennessee guy didn’t even do)and the returner ignores him and runs it out. Never have I seen an official say that counts as an invalid fair catch signal until yesterday
This post was edited on 10/22/23 at 10:07 am
Posted by Bamadog75
Alabama
Member since Mar 2017
1273 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 10:06 am to
These idiots aren't going to understand the rules of the game. You know the head of officials lives in Tuscaloosa, you know bama is averaging 6.8 penalties a game there is no way they only get one penalty.

You know they take snapshots of OL holding plays from bama that are so bad the refs have to be paid off. Lol what about the 17 penalties from last year and the pi called after the bama DB had returned it 20 yards before he threw it. Or all of the roughing the passer missed calls on Bryce who thought he was auditioning for wwe last year.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26966 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 10:11 am to
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From your article: ‘“There is still a bit of wiggle room to complain about the call. It feels a bit ticky-tack, and “any waving of the arm” feels pretty broad when applied to a football player who will likely be using his arms to run and later, catch the ball that is coming his way.”’



Irrelevant, because the guy who made the invalid signal wasn't even trying to catch the ball. The other guy is the one who caught the ball.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95503 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 10:13 am to
Since when has the t signal been called an invalid fair catch? It’s been used for years as simply a signal by the up man for the returner to not run it out. Never in my life seen it called as an invalid fair catch
This post was edited on 10/22/23 at 10:14 am
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26966 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 10:20 am to
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Never in my life seen it called as an invalid fair catch


Never in your life? The fair catch rule was only added in college football in 2018, so...
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