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re: Its official. Goff out at Alabama

Posted on 5/24/17 at 2:38 pm to
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 5/24/17 at 2:38 pm to
Grunny Goffleway
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 5/24/17 at 2:39 pm to
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It's actually spelled Goff


Goofaway
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
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Posted on 5/24/17 at 2:39 pm to
Sunny Golloway is a prick, but he is a good coach.
Posted by Vecchio Cane
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Posted on 5/24/17 at 2:43 pm to
I would bet that Byrne already talked to John Cohen, and others, and had a list of candidates ready to call.

The top 3 names for Coach of the Year were Butch, Mingione, and Cannizaro. All from the Cohen tree. Guess who brought Cohen to State? Gus who Cohencalled for advice on getting the MSU AD position?

Bama, welcome your Cohen disciple/baseball coach...
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 5/24/17 at 2:46 pm to
When was Cannizaro an assistant coach under Cohen?
Posted by Stuttgart Tiger
Branson, MO
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Posted on 5/24/17 at 2:48 pm to
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Cannizaro. All from the Cohen tree.


Cannizaro isn't from the "Cohen tree". He's just a hire.

Trying to find out about the "Cohen tree" reminded me that Cohen is part of the "NW St. tree." That lil school in Nak-a-trash sure has put out some coaches.
This post was edited on 5/24/17 at 2:55 pm
Posted by 1999
Where I be
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Posted on 5/24/17 at 2:51 pm to
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Cannizaro

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Cohen tree

Posted by Palmetto08
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Posted on 5/24/17 at 2:52 pm to
Mark Calvi @ South Alabama will be a candidate
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
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Posted on 5/24/17 at 2:52 pm to
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Trying to find out about the "Cohen tree" reminded me that Cohen is part of the "NW St. tree." That lil school in Natchi-trash keeps puttin em out.


Wells, Van Horn, Cohen, Gaspard, current LaTech coach Lane Burroughs.

Childress on Van Horn's staff there. I think Bianco was an assistant there as well.
Posted by threedog79
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 5/24/17 at 2:54 pm to
From what I understand the dude was trying to go all Bud Kilmer on the kids.

















"Go Pack. Go Pack."
Posted by yatesdog38
in your head rent free
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Posted on 5/24/17 at 2:54 pm to
I'm hearing from my sources that Dan Mullen is the leading candidate.
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
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Posted on 5/24/17 at 2:55 pm to
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Cohen is part of the "NW St. tree." That lil school in Natchi-trash sure put out some head coaches.


Amen to that. Tulsa use to produce basketball coaches like that. The NW Tree is awesome
Posted by Stuttgart Tiger
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Posted on 5/24/17 at 2:58 pm to
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I think Bianco was an assistant there as well.


Short stint in the early 90s.
Posted by Bama98
Houston
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Posted on 5/24/17 at 3:04 pm to
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 5/24/17 at 3:15 pm to
Can you copy and paste that? Work filters not allowing me to read it.
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 5/24/17 at 3:18 pm to
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Dear Mr. Byrne, Let me begin by first telling you that the Alabama community absolutely understands the impossible situation in which you have been placed. In athletics, as with many professions, new management is very often saddled with underperforming personnel, administrators, coaches, and programs for which they had no input and bear little love. Nevertheless, as professionals, we forge ahead, mindful of that fact that our personal feelings on an antecedent hire still affects scores of people’s livelihoods, and, in your case, the well-being of young adults, their educations, and their families. Few competent professionals in the public sector want to make their initial impact felt by cleaning house or making a highly-publicized firing. Yours is a risk-averse profession in a field where too many irrational, mercurial voices urge you to imprudence.

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Keeping those things in mind, Alabama baseball coach Greg Goff must be terminated, and he must be terminated immediately. I say this not as fan of the program or the sport, although I am that. I say that as an alum, a father of a college student, a Tuscaloosan, and as someone who loves the University — every blade of grass, every brick — more than almost anything on this earth. And, I say this as someone with a louder voice than most.
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 5/24/17 at 3:18 pm to
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he seemed like a great guy who was about to get it turned around



Seemed based on what?
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49680 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 3:19 pm to
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In his short tenure, Coach Goff has managed to take a competent-but-underperforming baseball program and reduce it to cinders. The ashes come not just from the execrable product he has put on the field, but from the bridges that he has burned, interpersonally and professionally, in less than a year.

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Bear in mind, I speak only from first-hand experience: I am not merely repeating innuendo, nor engaging in vicious rumor-mongering:

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He has managed to alienate first-round caliber draft picks; he has lost the faith (and allegiance) of several committed recruits with his caustic personality and inflexibility. I have heard from high school coaches in this state where he has damaged the ability of Alabama to recruit, including one memorable instance where he and his staff have been labeled persona non grata and shall be told they are no longer welcome should the occasion arise.
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49680 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 3:21 pm to
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He has shorted alums of the programs, seeming to go out of the way to ignore or actively offend those who would be program ambassadors. He not integrated himself into the university community (and has made no attempt to do so.) There is never a question, even in other non-revenue sports, that the coaches see themselves as an integral part of the university and athletic community — they are, to use a Catholic analogy, known by their works.

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Pick a coach at random, any one of them: Coach Avery Johnson, Coach Jay Sewell, Coach Dana Duckworth, Coach Nick Saban, and listen to their words, watch their deeds. They see themselves rightly as important mentors and parental surrogates to their student-athletes.

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In addition to honing athletic acumen, that mentorship has civic and moral dimensions. Part of that mentorship is valuing and encouraging the educational development of their charges. Go back to any Greg Goff interview over the past 11 months and see if you can find one holistic mention of these student-athletes as more than players; as persons, as students, as growing professionals. You won’t.

Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49680 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 3:23 pm to
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You will, however, find countless instances — most of which have been televised, where this man has been nothing less than a petit tyrant; worse, has been a tyrant with poor judgment.

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It is a pattern and practice of very loudly denigrating, cursing at, and otherwise exploding towards teenagers, even when they succeed. Not one person on this team deserves the personal insults hurled at them from a profane supposed-adult. Embarrassingly for the University, and in what surely must be a first, he directed a profane tirade at SEC officials after a game sufficient to earn a suspension for the following game. In any competitive venture, tempers flare and harsh words are spoken. I know that. But when they are the corpus of your persona they reflect not just poorly upon yourself, but upon everyone associated with the program.

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It is the random team meetings following a loss where he threatens scholarships because “they are messing with his money.” It is the team meetings demanding what amounts to a loyalty oath.

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It is withholding, mislaying, or misappropriating meager travel per diem for reasons known only to Goff. I, among others, would be very curious to see an accurate accounting of the program revenue.
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