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re: It's Meltdown Time! - BCS Championship Edition
Posted on 1/15/13 at 9:28 am to RollTide1987
Posted on 1/15/13 at 9:28 am to RollTide1987
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bad officiating....but if we can't stop lacy I can't fricking bitch....LET ME frickING BITCH DEFENSE GOD DAMN
Posted on 1/15/13 at 9:37 am to Wrenchruh
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Wrenchruh
It's Meltdown Time! - BCS Championship Edition
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frick these inbreds and ex-slaves.
For everyone in the nation who wonders why SEC fans tend to pull for each other.
Ding Ding! We have a winner.
Only WE can make fun of each other
Did you ever notice it's always people from the North or West that START theads about the Civil War, slavery, racism, etc. ??
Those illegal alien surfers and unemployed auto plant workers really get on my nerves...
Posted on 1/15/13 at 9:53 am to ThaKaptin
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And the bitching about the reffing was hilarious. I thought the officiating was pretty good. You have to figure there will be at least 1 or 2 blown calls every game and I only saw 1 or 2 that were even questionable IMO, and none that were just blown. That kick interference was textbook. There is a 1 yard halo on a fair catch and that player was within inches of the returner. Instant flag.
The penalty was actually on #8 for ND....the guy that ran into Bama's punt returner. You can't hit the punt returner or touch the ball if he calls fair catch. Once the ball hits the ground, ND could have touched the ball or hit our punt return man.....but they hit him while the ball was right off his chest = penalty 15 yards.
Posted on 1/15/13 at 9:54 am to RollTide1987
Someone please post this on the Irish illustrated board.
That's where most of these quotes came from.
That's where most of these quotes came from.
Posted on 1/15/13 at 9:56 am to FlukerFlakes
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on #8 for ND....the guy that ran into Bama's punt returner
except for the fact that he didnt touch the PR
Posted on 1/15/13 at 9:57 am to FlukerFlakes
He never actually touched him, I cant deny that, but the penalty doesnt call for contact. It calls for a 1 yard halo during a fair catch. He violated that halo. Period.
Its's similar to the 3 yard halo they had for a year or 2 a few years back but its only 1 yard now.
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Yup
Its's similar to the 3 yard halo they had for a year or 2 a few years back but its only 1 yard now.
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except for the fact that he didnt touch the PR
Yup
This post was edited on 1/15/13 at 9:58 am
Posted on 1/15/13 at 10:00 am to ThaKaptin
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It calls for a 1 yard halo during a fair catch. He violated that halo. Period.
when he first touched the ball the ND was a yard away. according to the rule how much time do they have to give him?
Posted on 1/15/13 at 10:02 am to NYCAuburn
Through the catch I guess. it only takes about a nano second to close the gap on the yard and it takes more than that to secure a punt reception IMO.
Posted on 1/15/13 at 10:10 am to NYCAuburn
I've avoided this bitchfest over the kick catching interference, because the game is over, the head official said it was the right call, etc, etc...but I guess I'll chime in now since I think people on both sides of the argument are completely missing what the call was made for.
When the fair catch signal is called, the returner is allowed an unimpeded opportunity to catch the ball EVEN IF HE MUFFS IT, which lasts until the ball hits the ground. The penalty wasn't called on the guy who "came close but didn't touch" the returner...it was on the guy who touched the bobbled ball before it hit the ground.
The relevant rule is 6-5-1-b, and here's the text:
EDIT: So to me, once the kick was bobbled, EITHER of the Notre Dame players could have been called for the penalty. Once for being too close, one for the touch of the ball.
When the fair catch signal is called, the returner is allowed an unimpeded opportunity to catch the ball EVEN IF HE MUFFS IT, which lasts until the ball hits the ground. The penalty wasn't called on the guy who "came close but didn't touch" the returner...it was on the guy who touched the bobbled ball before it hit the ground.
The relevant rule is 6-5-1-b, and here's the text:
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b. When a Team B player makes a valid fair catch signal, the unimpeded
opportunity to catch a free or scrimmage kick continues if this player muffs
the kick and still has an opportunity to complete the catch. This protection
terminates when the kick touches the ground. If the player subsequently
catches the kick, the ball is placed where he first touched it (A.R. 6-5-1-I-II).
EDIT: So to me, once the kick was bobbled, EITHER of the Notre Dame players could have been called for the penalty. Once for being too close, one for the touch of the ball.
This post was edited on 1/15/13 at 10:13 am
Posted on 1/15/13 at 10:11 am to NYCAuburn
The head of NCAA officiating explained the rule moments after the on-field ruling. He stated the punt returner wasn't given allotted time or space to field the punt.
Posted on 1/15/13 at 10:13 am to NYCAuburn
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except for the fact that he didnt touch the PR
Uh yes he did.
I'm talking about #8, not #41. Watch the video again. #8 is the 2nd ND player on the scene.
Posted on 1/15/13 at 10:14 am to DvlsAdvocat
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The penalty wasn't called on the guy who "came close but didn't touch" the returner...it was on the guy who touched the bobbled ball before it hit the ground.
I dont know about that, the ball flew right at the notre dame player, away from the bama player by at least 1.5 -2 feet
Posted on 1/15/13 at 10:15 am to FlukerFlakes
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I'm talking about #8, not #41. Watch the video again. #8 is the 2nd ND player on the scene.
I did and the ball hits no 8 before 8 makes contact with the bama player
video
go to 32 seconds
This post was edited on 1/15/13 at 10:18 am
Posted on 1/15/13 at 10:16 am to ThaKaptin
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And the bitching about the reffing was hilarious. I thought the officiating was pretty good. You have to figure there will be at least 1 or 2 blown calls every game and I only saw 1 or 2 that were even questionable IMO, and none that were just blown. That kick interference was textbook. There is a 1 yard halo on a fair catch and that player was within inches of the returner. Instant flag.
The officiating was fine. Bama just whipped that arse plain and simple. Three other SEC teams could have made it a competitive game. ND was outmanned by a mile.
Posted on 1/15/13 at 10:17 am to NYCAuburn
The top comment in that video says the same thing I did. You can't touch the ball first on a muffed fair catch, until the ball hits the ground. Its in the rulebook.
NCAA Rulebook
NCAA Rulebook
This post was edited on 1/15/13 at 10:19 am
Posted on 1/15/13 at 10:18 am to DownSouthCrawfish
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bad officiating....but if we can't stop lacy I can't fricking bitch....LET ME frickING BITCH DEFENSE GOD DAMN
Posted on 1/15/13 at 10:20 am to NYCAuburn
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I did and the ball hits no 8 before 8 makes contact with the bama player
video
go to 32 seconds
which is illegal. The only time the kicking team is allowed to touch a punt after the receiving team calls fair catch is once the muffed punt hits the ground. It has to hit the ground or it is a 15 yard penalty on the punting team.
Posted on 1/15/13 at 10:23 am to FlukerFlakes
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hey look, NDs best defensive player makes a TFL.
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Manti.....that means "tackle for loss", just so you know. I don't want you to be the only one here who didn't understand.
Posted on 1/15/13 at 10:28 am to RollTide1987
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fricking tackling
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How does it work
Posted on 1/15/13 at 10:47 am to jackmanusc
You forget the South is filled with backwoods racists and the North is for the gentle enlightened.
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