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re: Is this a make or break it year for Chiz
Posted on 4/2/12 at 10:23 am to WDE24
Posted on 4/2/12 at 10:23 am to WDE24
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I just remember like 3 3rd and longs with Clemson backed up against their own goal line that we let them convert.
Yep. The D was dead tired. We had no backups in alot of places, and didnt play the ones we did have. Coupled with a lack of playmakers results in Clemson having the ball almost the entire 4th qtr.
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Posted on 4/2/12 at 10:25 am to bamasgot13
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That said, you can't honestly believe that Bama was a 5+ loss team without Ingram or Richardson.
There was a point I was trying to get across.
Posted on 4/2/12 at 10:25 am to Robot Santa
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Looking back, Auburn would have struggled to make a bowl game without Cam in 2010, considering what they had at QB behind him.
No. Auburn's team last year had nowhere near the leadership they did in 2010, and easily made a bowl game. Point being the O-Line of 2010 was a huge part of Auburn's success.
Posted on 4/2/12 at 10:26 am to NYCAuburn
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Saban sucks without great players
and auburn sucks without bought players....
Posted on 4/2/12 at 10:26 am to bamasgot13
quote:No, I think they were a 2, maybe 3 loss team without those horses to ride. A reliable, productive running back that doesn't turn the ball over does a lot more for a team than what is shown in their individual stats.
That said, you can't honestly believe that Bama was a 5+ loss team without Ingram or Richardson.
That is what AU is likely going to miss without Dyer this year (although he was under utilized IMO while at AU anyway).
This post was edited on 4/2/12 at 10:27 am
Posted on 4/2/12 at 10:26 am to Winslow
No.
Posted on 4/2/12 at 10:27 am to allin2010
quote:Miles has had 5 seasons with 11+ wins at LSU. He has played for 3 SEC titles and 2 BCS titles. He has a lot more credit in the bank that a one year wonder like Chiz.
IMHO, Myles would be on a hotter seat, he won a nattie by backing in with two losses, he followed that up with an 8-5 season (sound familiar).
Posted on 4/2/12 at 10:28 am to plutonium55
quote:atpb failures still shitting in threads.
and auburn sucks without bought players.
Posted on 4/2/12 at 10:29 am to Rex Manning
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We went 13-1 last year
Yes and got shut out in the big game. It was very obvious from the game itself that he and his team were very unprepared. Therefore he blew it.
Posted on 4/2/12 at 10:29 am to XbengalTiger
I agree .
Posted on 4/2/12 at 10:30 am to XbengalTiger
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Miles has had 5 seasons with 11+ wins at LSU. He has played for 3 SEC titles and 2 BCS titles. He has a lot more credit in the bank that a one year wonder like Chiz.
You are correct, but it doesn't change the fact many LSU fans were wanting him gone between 2010-2011 seasons.
Posted on 4/2/12 at 10:35 am to RollTide1987
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Of those three teams, Virginia Tech is your best argument. Ingram had less than 100 yards against Tennessee and Mark Barron's pick six in the South Carolina game were all the points we needed in that game.
McElroy only passed for 120 against Tenn, and Ingram had 99 yards, which if you look at the stat sheet, basically made him the biggest contributor. Without him, you may not have had any running game at all. Don't forget, you were a last minute FG block away from losing to a 5 win Tenn team.
I know S Car only scored 6, but he completely took that game over against them. McElroy only had 90 yards passing on 20 attempts and 2 INT's. Without Ingram, it could have been a completely different game.
Auburn fans realize Cam was a once in a generation type player, but the rest of the team(OL and DL specifically) played a huge part in that championship. Cam wouldn't have done near what he did last year with that OL we had, than he did in 2010. He absolutely was the biggest reason we won, but he didn't do it by himself. He didn't have a great game against Oregon. Our defense, ironically enough, won that game for us.
This post was edited on 4/2/12 at 10:38 am
Posted on 4/2/12 at 10:56 am to WDE24
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No, I think they were a 2, maybe 3 loss team without those horses to ride.
I don't know if i'd even go that far. In '09, they only played 3 games that were decided by single digits. Tenn (+2), LSU (+9), and AU (+5). Ingram was really a nonfactor in the AU game, so you'd have to think Bama would have lost both Tenn & LSU without him for them to have been a 2 loss team that year.
In '11, Bama only played one close game (OT loss to LSU by 3) all year. Every other game was won by 16+ points. I think Trent is great, but he's not 16 points per game difference. I can't find a game that we wouldn't have won without him in '11.
Posted on 4/2/12 at 10:58 am to bamasgot13
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A reliable, productive running back that doesn't turn the ball over does a lot more for a team than what is shown in their individual stats.
Posted on 4/2/12 at 11:01 am to Winslow
dumb question is dumb.
Posted on 4/2/12 at 11:53 am to Bham4Tide
We go 8-5 in an even year, people are going to start talking, but there aren't many realistic scenarios that get him fired this year.
Posted on 4/2/12 at 12:01 pm to Winslow
This will be an interesting year for Chiz.
Me personally, I'll be looking at how (or if) this team progresses. If our defense blows again, if Frazier/Moseley/whoever doesn't show significant improvement from last year and if we get blown out by all our biggest rivals again, things could heat up in a hurry.
All those freshmen/sophomores from last year are now sophomores/juniors. We have all our our hard games (minus Bama) at home. There aren't any excuses for Chiz this year.
I'm looking foward to this season.
Me personally, I'll be looking at how (or if) this team progresses. If our defense blows again, if Frazier/Moseley/whoever doesn't show significant improvement from last year and if we get blown out by all our biggest rivals again, things could heat up in a hurry.
All those freshmen/sophomores from last year are now sophomores/juniors. We have all our our hard games (minus Bama) at home. There aren't any excuses for Chiz this year.
I'm looking foward to this season.
Posted on 4/2/12 at 12:03 pm to AUTiger5
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We go 8-5 in an even year, people are going to start talking, but there aren't many realistic scenarios that get him fired this year.
This. But let us lose to Bama by 28 again, and that may intensify it.
But I'll be awfully disappointed if we can't improve on last year's win total.
Posted on 4/2/12 at 12:05 pm to AUTiger5
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That is what AU is likely going to miss without Dyer this year (although he was under utilized IMO while at AU anyway).
Huh? All we did last year was run Dyer up the middle every play because 1) our QBs sucked and 2) even if they had been decent, our OL couldn't block for longer than 2 sec.
We used Dyer plenty. Maybe too much IMO.
Posted on 4/2/12 at 12:21 pm to AUTiger5
quote:His freshman year and the start of last year he was under utilized. He started getting the carries last year when it became apparent our QB and oline were terrible. Even then, we totally abandoned the run game in our biggest games.
Huh? All we did last year was run Dyer up the middle every play because 1) our QBs sucked and 2) even if they had been decent, our OL couldn't block for longer than 2 sec.
We used Dyer plenty. Maybe too much IMO.
We were much more successful in games in which we committed to running him, even if he wasn't having a huge game. See USCe and UF.
ETA: As our best offensive player and primary weapon, he had fewer than 20 touches in 7 of 12 games and fewer than 15 in 5 of 12 games.
This post was edited on 4/2/12 at 12:25 pm
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