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Is there a better "bad QB" coach than Mullen?
Posted on 10/16/19 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 10/16/19 at 12:48 pm
I mean a coach of bad QBs, not a QB Coach who is bad.
I would say Dan Mullen consistently does more with less than any other OC or HC out there.
Look at some of his QBs in the past
Chris Relf
Tyler Russell
Nick Fitzgerald
Felipe Franks
Kyle Trask
and he somehow has pieced together a winning record at Miss State, and won 10 games at Florida in year 1.
Sure he got Dak Prescott and Tebow when he was an OC at Florida. But he gets solid production out of a lot of future Insurance salesmen.
I would say Dan Mullen consistently does more with less than any other OC or HC out there.
Look at some of his QBs in the past
Chris Relf
Tyler Russell
Nick Fitzgerald
Felipe Franks
Kyle Trask
and he somehow has pieced together a winning record at Miss State, and won 10 games at Florida in year 1.
Sure he got Dak Prescott and Tebow when he was an OC at Florida. But he gets solid production out of a lot of future Insurance salesmen.
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Posted on 10/16/19 at 12:49 pm to Todd O'Connor
I mean, I'd argue the first 4 were just plain bad.
But Mullen is a very good QB coach.
But Mullen is a very good QB coach.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 12:51 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Look at some of the seasons he squeezed our of Franks and Fitzgerald.
Look what happened to Moorehead when he tried to jsut treat Fitzgerald like a QB.
The only competition i can think of is Jimbo who coached the following into tricking teams to take them in the first
Jamarcus Russell
Christian Ponder
EJ MAnuel
Jameis Winston
Look what happened to Moorehead when he tried to jsut treat Fitzgerald like a QB.
The only competition i can think of is Jimbo who coached the following into tricking teams to take them in the first
Jamarcus Russell
Christian Ponder
EJ MAnuel
Jameis Winston
This post was edited on 10/16/19 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 10/16/19 at 12:52 pm to Todd O'Connor
It's kind of a double-edged sword.
On one hand, he takes lesser-rated guys and makes more out of them than anyone else in the country could. On the other hand, the reason he has all these project QBs is because he can't seem to reel in the elite prospects.
On one hand, he takes lesser-rated guys and makes more out of them than anyone else in the country could. On the other hand, the reason he has all these project QBs is because he can't seem to reel in the elite prospects.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 12:52 pm to Todd O'Connor
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Look at some of the seasons he squeezed our of Franks and Fitzgerald.
Fitz was good against bad teams and miserable against good teams.
This post was edited on 10/16/19 at 12:53 pm
Posted on 10/16/19 at 1:54 pm to Todd O'Connor
All of those were good QBs except for Russell. Russell wasn’t a good QB, although nobody really ever thought he was. People unfortunately consider Russell to be a bust because they forget that people were laughing at the Raiders for selecting him from the moment the pick was announced.
This post was edited on 10/16/19 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 10/16/19 at 1:56 pm to Todd O'Connor
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Kyle Trask
Subtle.
This post was edited on 10/16/19 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 10/16/19 at 2:17 pm to Todd O'Connor
The fact that we won 9 games with Chris Relf is a testament to Mullen’s coaching abilities. Relf might be the least talented qb in the SEC of the last two decades.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 2:58 pm to Todd O'Connor
He ruined Tyler Russell’s playing career. Relf was a TE playing QB. Fitz was only good when he was high on cocaine. Tyson Lee is who you left off. Our offense under Mullen only worked When you had a big imposing QB who could truck people.
This post was edited on 10/16/19 at 3:03 pm
Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:01 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Is he? Dax was a good QB. The rest, he never beat any good teams with. He has one QB in the NFL. Tebow was just a FB in Urbans system. Similar to the OSU QBs.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:02 pm to Todd O'Connor
Dont forget Alex Smith and Chris Leak both improved a lot with him.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:03 pm to AUCE05
You know Mullen invented that system...right? Even Meyer credits him. He also started RPOs at Utah(though somewhat accidently)
Meyer was never an offensive mastermind he was a special teams guy. Mullen made the offense
Meyer was never an offensive mastermind he was a special teams guy. Mullen made the offense
This post was edited on 10/16/19 at 3:04 pm
Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:05 pm to Prof
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Kyle Trask
Subtle.
#3 in QB Rating.
#4 in Total QBR. (Both SEC)
Broke Chris Leak's consecutive completion record.
First QB to throw for over 300 yards against LSU since Rex Grossman 2001 (or AUB, BAMA, UGA).
Broke Franks' single game passing record twice, started four games while Franks played 27.
I think people only call him a "bad" QB because they misread his situation. Played at a high school where he wasn't built for their style of offense. Then McElwain left and the offense changed once again that "didn't fit his style".
Keep in mind, he's doing this with basically a non-existent run game. Teams have been able to stop our run game with four guys no problem -- including Towson. So Trask is basically throwing into pass defenses and still somehow managing his numbers.
It's impressive that Mullen had no idea that the best QB was on the bench.
This post was edited on 10/17/19 at 12:25 am
Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:06 pm to Gatorbait2008
Meyer literally said last month he created the RPO system.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:07 pm to AUCE05
He said he and Mullen. Mullen was the offensive mind of the two and it's even in his damn biography.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:08 pm to Gatorbait2008
Okay. I guess the article detailing how he developed it is wrong. You are right.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:15 pm to Todd O'Connor
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Sure he got Dak Prescott
Dak was also nobody before Mullen started coaching him. So was Alex Smith. Tebow and Franks are the two highest rated QB recruits (and really the only blue-chip recruits I can think of) he's ever coached unless you count the year he had with Cam at Florida.
This post was edited on 10/16/19 at 3:18 pm
Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:19 pm to MaroonNation
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Fitz was only good when he was high on cocaine
Posted on 10/16/19 at 3:47 pm to lsufball19
He won 10 games with Franks as his qb in the SEC.
On that fact alone he's a miracle worker.
On that fact alone he's a miracle worker.
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